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Would (will?) you snitch on your neighbours?

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MawB2 Thu 17-Sep-20 11:19:31

As recommended by the fragrant Priti Patel?
What happened to “we’re all in this together”, “Brutush common sense” , “Blitz spirit” ?
From Michael Deacon in today’s DT who puts it better than I could
To encourage us, the Home Secretary Priti Patel has told an interviewer that she would happily snitch on her neighbours, should she catch them breaking the law. (British law, that is. Breaking international law is, of course, a completely different matter.)
Reporters duly travelled to Witham in Essex, to ask Ms Patel’s neighbours for a response. One woman replied that, in the circumstances described, she would cordially invite the Home Secretary to “do one”

Tellingly, the woman added: “It was all right for Dominic Cummings to drive up to his second house. It seems like one rule for them and one rule for us

I think (more than) a few of us are saying “Hear, hear”.

Tillybelle Sat 19-Sep-20 10:47:11

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Furret Sat 19-Sep-20 09:00:50

Hetty someone doing their duty sent Anne Frank and her family to their deaths.

Furret Sat 19-Sep-20 08:59:39

No, of course not, especially for minor infringements. To be honest I wouldn’t know as I’m not a curtain twitcher,

Having said that in the unlikely event of a neighbour hosting a large and rowdy party ..... that’s a different scenario.

Afeica33 Sat 19-Sep-20 08:18:01

Hetty58

I'm no fan of Priti (ghastly woman) but I'd have no hesitation in reporting my neighbours. In fact, I have already done so.

I won't stand back while they put others' lives at risk. That would be irresponsible. Would you ignore other risky behaviour (like drunk driving or drug dealing)?

I see it as my civil duty to do everything I can to make sure that the law is upheld.

I'm protecting other people, those who are sticking to the sensible rules - but are vulnerable due to age or health issues. I'm far more concerned about them than the stupid 'party set'!

I'm certain you'd have been very popular in Nazi Germany.........

Carry on telling yourself you're only 'protecting' others.

I think you're getting confused dearie, its 'civic duty'!!

Sarnia Sat 19-Sep-20 08:12:30

I only snitched once on a neighbour. In my previous house my next door neighbour married and moved away and she decided to rent out her house next to mine. Four young people moved in and were fine except for just 1 thing. Their constant smoking of cannabis and all done in the back garden. There was no getting away from the stench of it. Sitting in the back garden was a no-no. Washing smelt of it and it even permeated the house. I went round to have a calm chat with them but the problem continued so I contacted the letting agent and within a few weeks they had moved out as they had broken their rental agreement. Some things need reporting, such as possible abuse. It's the only option in some cases.

Seajaye Sat 19-Sep-20 07:46:26

Has anyone called the police about breaking Covid laws ? and if so did they turn up?

Doodledog Fri 18-Sep-20 23:48:30

By 'going out socialising' she may have meant 'leave the house to go and see others', as opposed to 'socialising outdoors'?

I think that most, if not all of the people I know are taking things seriously. I just think that if we all understood why we were being asked to change from x to y, it would stop people from sniping at one another for 'getting it wrong'.

Hetty58 Fri 18-Sep-20 23:28:51

As the infection rate (and death toll) rises, I think perhaps people will begin to take things a little more seriously.

Today, a friend said it will 'settle down' as the weather gets colder and people don't 'go out socialising'.

I found that comment odd - as the infection risk when meeting indoors is much higher.

I agree that the ever-changing 'rules' are confusing, especially as they vary by area. If we're due another lockdown, better now than later on.

Doodledog Fri 18-Sep-20 23:23:27

I think that when there is a change made we should be told exactly why, on what evidence, and it should be made very clear whether what we are following are rules or advice.

As it is, I sometimes feel that the government are making it up as they go along, and I have met people who appear to be of the opinion that following the rules is more important than understanding why. I think some of them would paint their ears green if they were told to, wouldn't question it, and would swear that those who didn't comply were stupid and/or selfish.

For various reasons I am staying indoors, and have done since before the official lockdown was announced. I am sick to death of it, but as I am not interested in following the rules (other than to wash my hands after touching anything that comes into the house) I am less obsessive than many.

What does amuse me is the number of people complaining on social media about the roads and shops being so busy that they are being slowed down on their own drive to the shops grin. I suspect that they will be the ones to inform on their neighbours for perceived infractions.

M0nica Fri 18-Sep-20 23:20:02

The rules are so confusing and seem to be applied randomly without rhyme or reason and can change at only a few hours notice

I am very conscious that I am meeting more and more people who normally obey every rule and law almost mindlessly, but who are now getting more and more mutinous about the whole unseemly shambles. There seems to be no coherent plan or philosophy about our government's response to COVID and those meant to be in charge seem to be as confused as anybody else.

LauraNorder Fri 18-Sep-20 22:48:45

If I understand it correctly it is about viral load, so moving about outdoors and not spending more than a few hours with larger groups is less likely to spread the virus than spending time indoors with smaller groups in close contact and longer periods such as overnight stays.
So I suppose, on that basis, exceeding the six person rule indoors is as bad as attending a rave outdoors so those who feel the need to report raves must also report granny visiting a family of six.
My own personal feeling is that I will obey the rules, I’ll encourage others to do so and if I become aware that people I know are breaking the law I will simply distance myself from them for the foreseeable future.
I just wish everyone would take it seriously and abide by the rules as far as humanly possible.

MissAdventure Fri 18-Sep-20 21:42:54

I suppose I'm a bit of a goody two shoes.
I was bought up to do as I'm told, and old habits die hard.

Chewbacca Fri 18-Sep-20 21:28:37

So is it likely that people will become more compliant with each tightening up of the rules

That's an interesting question MissA. I think that those who have been pretty much adhering to the rules since March, will continue to follow government advice, no matter how illogical or contradictory it is, purely because they want to be rid of the virus and return to a semblance if normality as soon as possible. Those who've carried on pretty much as they had been doing, pre COVID, will continue to dismiss and disregard any further tightening of the rules until they are either fined for their infractions or catch the virus. I suppose it depends on how much you want to avoid catching COVID - v - valuing your personal freedom to move where you want, when you want.

earnshaw Fri 18-Sep-20 21:19:38

i have no problem with priti patel and as to snitching, if the gathering was a large gathering i would tell on them but only if it could be done anonymously

Marydoll Fri 18-Sep-20 20:17:59

I went to the supermarket this morning on my own, as for the first time since I started shielding, I had no online delivery.

As I was trying to get my trolley, a lady came up and pushed me out of the way to get a trolley, saying, Excuse me, excuse me.

I was raging, as she was actually touching me. She was given a lecture about guidelines and social distancing by me. I was so angry that I had shielded for months, only for someone to possibly put me in danger.
She hadn't a clue what I was talking about, when I mentioned guidelines.

She then followed straight behind me into the supermarket, until she was stopped by the security guard and told to wait like everyone else.

What chance have we got, when people don't bother to follow the rules.

MissAdventure Fri 18-Sep-20 20:07:44

So is it likely that people will become more compliant with each tightening up of the rules?
Perhaps they will.

Mollygo Fri 18-Sep-20 19:49:16

No I wouldn’t, but it’s those who haven’t stuck to basic guidelines who are prolonging the misery. There will be enough of them who survive to shout that it want their fault.

MissAdventure Fri 18-Sep-20 18:38:40

So, is one rave worse than a big family with lots of friends, all visiting, having parties, staying over at each others places throughout the whole covid duration?

Kate1949 Fri 18-Sep-20 18:35:06

We've been having our shopping delivered throughout lockdown but have ventured out once or twice
DH went to a supermarket this morning just for 3 items. When he came back he said "I'd swear some people don't even know there's a pandemic the way they are behaving'.

Madmother21 Fri 18-Sep-20 18:27:58

It depends on the circumstances. If it was neighbours sitting in their garden with family, social distancing, I wouldn’t say a thing. But if it was a rave, with dozens of people, I may say something.

Atqui Fri 18-Sep-20 18:16:44

Tonight’s news reported that most of the transmissions in Wolverhampton were due to family or friends social events and not pubs and restaurants.

Bluecat Fri 18-Sep-20 18:07:21

People who don't wear masks, social distance, obey the hygiene rules, etc, are stupid and selfish, helping to spread a potentially fatal disease. I despair of them. However, I have to admit that some of the rules don't make sense. 10 pm curfews for pubs and restaurants in lockdown areas? What does that achieve? It seems that some of the rules have just been put into place to make it look as if the government is taking action.

So it's people who break common sense rules who make me cross. Having big family gatherings, for instance, although they must know that they are one of the most likely ways to spread the virus. I would want to report situations like that. I wouldn't do it, though. I am not a copper's nark. It would make me very uncomfortable to tell on my neighbours.

Plus the fact that if Priti Patel tells us to do something, I immediately don't want to do it.

glammagran Fri 18-Sep-20 17:40:28

If it was a large party group I definitely would report. If it’s a couple with 3 children inviting parents for Christmas definitely no.

Bazza Fri 18-Sep-20 17:22:56

Spot on PinkCakes.

curlz Fri 18-Sep-20 17:07:20

If they were having a large house party with lots of people then I might be tempted . But normal family friend stuff then no I wouldn’t