NHS Covid 19 Track & Trace app now available

Rather depressing news on the radio this morning. Only 11% of people in the UK who know they have had contact vid a Covid-19 positive person are self-isolating. Only 18% of people who develop the disease are self-isolating. It seems people want to follow guidelines but then choose not to do so. What does this mean for track and trace?

growstuff

craftyone

The risk to the SW has come from the huge influx of people excaping from the high risk cities

That's nothing to do with the risk category. The point is that even if there were only one case in the whole of the South West, people would still need to take precautions.

There are cases now in the SW which originated from people from outside the area. The people in rural and seaside areas were doing pretty well before the mass influx. The influx of escapees are the cause of the risk category being higher than low

Thankyou Alegrias and Woodmouse49. Uncertain times indeed. Probably the only certainty is hand washing and social distancing and masks where appropriate helps.
Slightly off topic but apparently people are chilled by a video released in Scotland which shows the virus being transmitted by a granddaughter to her granddad when she makes him a cup of tea.
I'm not sure why some people are chilled or indeed even surprised. Over the years there have been endless publicity about how viruses and bacteria spread. It was covered in basic food technology when my daughters were at school. Hey Ho. I'm off to make rock cakes,washing my hands first of course?

There's more about risk categories here:

metro.co.uk/2020/09/24/what-nhs-covid-19-app-postcode-risk-levels-mean-coronavirus-uk-13321713/

There is a rising number of cases everywhere in England, so nowhere can be "low risk".

Calendargirl

lemongrove

Barmeyoldbat

Well I reckon it will be a good percentage of the population that can't down the app. Just doing a quick think around the people I know at least half won't be able to do it as the phone is to old. Still if it works for some it will help.

I don’t think so.....maybe within the older generation there will be some, but most people have an up to date smart phone these days.

My area is medium risk apparently.

On a regional news programme last night, the presenter admitted his phone was not ‘smart’ enough to download the app. I was a bit surprised, thought he would have had a newer one, but made me aware of how many phones are too old.

My phone is too old. It does what I want it to do, so I'm not buying a new one.

craftyone

The risk to the SW has come from the huge influx of people excaping from the high risk cities

That's nothing to do with the risk category. The point is that even if there were only one case in the whole of the South West, people would still need to take precautions.

lemongrove

Barmeyoldbat

Well I reckon it will be a good percentage of the population that can't down the app. Just doing a quick think around the people I know at least half won't be able to do it as the phone is to old. Still if it works for some it will help.

I don’t think so.....maybe within the older generation there will be some, but most people have an up to date smart phone these days.

My area is medium risk apparently.

On a regional news programme last night, the presenter admitted his phone was not ‘smart’ enough to download the app. I was a bit surprised, thought he would have had a newer one, but made me aware of how many phones are too old.

lemongrove

growstuff

Apparently, there are no low risk areas in England:

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/no-area-england-low-risk-nhs-covid19-app-a4556346.html

Surprising....I thought Devon and Cornwall would fall into that category.

If you read the criteria used to decide, there are only two risk categories in England.

The government want everybody to be more alert. Most areas are "medium risk".

The "high risk" areas are areas where there are already extra restrictions or where the areas are on a "watch" list and likely to have restrictions imposed very soon, if the situation continues.

My guess is that the government doesn't want anybody to think they can ignore the advice by becoming complacent.

The risk to the SW has come from the huge influx of people excaping from the high risk cities

growstuff

Apparently, there are no low risk areas in England:

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/no-area-england-low-risk-nhs-covid19-app-a4556346.html

Surprising....I thought Devon and Cornwall would fall into that category.

Barmeyoldbat

Well I reckon it will be a good percentage of the population that can't down the app. Just doing a quick think around the people I know at least half won't be able to do it as the phone is to old. Still if it works for some it will help.

I don’t think so.....maybe within the older generation there will be some, but most people have an up to date smart phone these days.

My area is medium risk apparently.

Apparently, there are no low risk areas in England:

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/no-area-england-low-risk-nhs-covid19-app-a4556346.html

??. I hate using mobile for comments. I’m not ‘pist’. Sorry for my last post. This is what it should be ...

I tried other post codes I thought might be low and found one.

Dorsetcupcake61

I turn off APP when indoors,I dont know if bluetooth drains battery?
I too was a little surprised to see my area as medium risk. We have always been amongst low end. I also have the Zoe Covid app which relies on people self reporting. That has seen a big increase in cases in my council although still lower than others.
A cynical part of me has wondered if all postcodes are automatically set at medium or high risk?. Anyone out there low risk? It does seem once you register you cant check other postcodes.
With the current problems with accessing testing and results I'm not sure an accurate picture is available so it may be wise to be cautious, as I'm sure most people are.

Delete the app. Load it again. It lets you register again. I tried a few pist

glammagran

Not sure about the app though. ArcGis app shows 0-2 cases in my area. NHS app shows we are in a medium risk area?‍♀️How big is an “area”. I am fed up with so much conflicting information and not actually getting the information I actually want.

I’m presuming the area is the post code one.
I’ve tried other post codes around Cornwall and can’t find a low risk area! I’ve come up with medium risk. I presume because the county had a blip with R when it touched 1 ages ago

Low areas do exist. We have a friend mid Wales (Machynlleth) in one.

Dorsetcupcake61

I dont know if bluetooth drains battery?

It doesn't, not that you would notice

Right now can someone explain to me it’s use
You get told if you ve been near someone who has tested positive for Corona then it is your choice whether you self isolate or get a test or not have I got this right that it’s not compulsory to go into quarantine? maybe I ve got it wrong
I m happy to be corrected
But if I m right what is the point of having it on your phone ?

Franbern

Unless everybody decided to stay under house isolation for the next year of so, (provided you still have a home to live in, and are not evicted as not paying rent/mortgage), whenever we go out more, infection rates will rise. Inevitable!!!!

Still less deaths each day than from Flu, and we are not yet in the flu season!!!!

Until such time as a vaccine is developed (if ever), then this virus, like so many other illnesses, will be around, and we need to learn to live with it.

The real tragedies and deaths from this last six months and the next has yet to unfold - the result of the thousands of deaths from illnesses not being treated, from the suicides due to breakdowns of relationships due to economical collapse, to serious depression and other mental illnesses increasing.

A panicked and frightened community is one that is much easier to control. Just that we are being panicked and frightened about the wrong things.

It is NOT true that Covid-19 is less deadly than flu.

Public Health England estimates that on average 17,000 people have died from the flu in England annually between 2014/15 and 2018/19. However, the yearly deaths vary widely from a high of 28,330 in 2014/15 to a low of 1,692 in 2018/19.

In the six months since March, over 40,000 people have died from Covid-19 - and that's almost certainly an underestimate.

We only have low death rates at the moment because the most vulnerable have been shielded and there have been mitigating measures.

If Covid-19 is left to its own devices in the community, it will cause more deaths and debilitating after-effects, including depression and financial problems for those left behind.

"Learning to live" with it means accepting deaths.

Please stop peddling your dangerous, inaccurate myths.

I turn off APP when indoors,I dont know if bluetooth drains battery?
I too was a little surprised to see my area as medium risk. We have always been amongst low end. I also have the Zoe Covid app which relies on people self reporting. That has seen a big increase in cases in my council although still lower than others.
A cynical part of me has wondered if all postcodes are automatically set at medium or high risk?. Anyone out there low risk? It does seem once you register you cant check other postcodes.
With the current problems with accessing testing and results I'm not sure an accurate picture is available so it may be wise to be cautious, as I'm sure most people are.

Good idea Alegruas. Yes, I discussed this last night with my husband and would do that. Was thinking you would have to be quite "alert" to not get false positives.

If you're worried about it picking up people next door, turn it off when you're in those circumstances. e.g., at home, at work or in a hotel room. You're in control.

Theres no risk with leaving Bluetooth on all the time.

re medium, in my particular case, the first half of my postcode includes potantial hotspots and there are 2 between 10 and 20 miles away. My little area with almost zero positives is therefore at risk from the spreading out from these 2 areas, which are really no distance away. Hence I am medium and it was a wake up call, which is one of the objectives of the app, to shake people up and make them less complacent and more careful

Crafty - mmmn, others who could and don`t are purely and simply selfish. - really?

I have experience and believe me, we have almost reached the point of no return. Frightened and panicked, not me at all, just caring for others in the community who are vulnerable and our NHS people who will be thrown into danger and the greatest stress

Please remember that this virus is genetically altered to be very easily transmitted and to have maximum impact with very long term damage to even the young ones who may not show symptoms. It is not at all a simple virus and needs complex measures to keep it under control. We all should be helping, it is not down to someone else but us as individuals

I heard yesterday that it can pick up people in rooms next door. This means hotels, workplaces, people living in neighbouring flats/houses.

Also, you have to leave bluetooth on. Are there risks associated with that do you know?