Family Rift RE:Covid

Thank you JenniferEccles and nanasam. I thought she might be having a bad day and had no idea this is the norm. I'll watch out in future

Bubbles can be formed with single adult households (so, sister B) for 'essential care needs', is my understanding. But of course it is down to individuals to gauge individual risk depending on the circumstances. The advice is also to try and choose people who live relatively close to each other.

I agree, suziewoozie scares me

I’m afraid suziewoozie appears to delight in making unpleasant, sneering comments.

Most of her remarks on various threads fall into that category.

Best ignored.

suziewoozie you got a sincere apology from SpringyChicken but you then went on to rub her nose in it. Are you OK? hmm

Putting aside the guidance, rules - and various versions of 'common sense' (whatever that is) - does Mum really need the visits from sister B?

A visitor from Tier 3 is a potential risk, after all. Perhaps sister B is the one who 'needs' to visit, is just being difficult, demanding her 'right' to see Mum. If so, I think it's very selfish to put somebody's life at risk!

Apologies for the black humour but this thread is beginning to sound like the Arena Scene in The Life Of Brain. The one where Stan wants to be a woman.
If your not a Life Of Brain fan it won't mean didly squat.
As you were.

Purplecatlover explains the guidance well and is correct that Sister B can be in a bubble with Sister A and Mum.

I find the whole situation puzzling. My home help , the only person who usually comes into my home, has been away to visit her dying mother. Her daughter offered to come but I refused because she works in a care home
My helps friend came instead. But she has husband and sons who go out to work so I am very appreciative even though she wore a visor. Disinfected everything after she left.

Sorry I can't be helpful. Puzzles are beyond me.

I reckon sister B who is in Tier 3 should stay where she is, specially as your mum isn't bothered, why risk it.

Sister b is right, she can make a bubble with sister a and mum but as sister b is in a tier 3 area the whole bubble cannot socialise inside or outside with any other households or family members. The whole bubble should follow the tier three rules. Which would mean you can’t see any of them?

They could go out for food etc. as a bubble but does she really want to take that risk with mums health, especially if mum was shielded earlier in the year?

It could be argued that sister b needs to care for mum and for her own mental health so travel between both households in the bubble is necessary.

Would it be possible for you mum to go stay with sister b for longer? She would be less at risk from sister a accidentally infecting her as sister a is high risk given her job. Sister a could still be a bubble with them so could still visit though again the guidelines say don’t travel into and out of tier 3 unless necessary but again bubbles to support each other’s mental health or provide care can be necessary travel.

Sister a and mum can have a bubble with either you or sister b, if you are single, if you are not single then you can’t visit even in tier 2. This bubble cannot be chopped and changed, it’s one only.

Tier 2 are allowed to visit each other outside, so a walk in the park, or a coffee at outdoor seating but no visiting inside mums house or inside coffee shops, pubs or restaurants, unless your a bubble.

claresc0tt

I would use common sense!

Which is? Can you buy it in a bottle?

I would use common sense!

SpringyChicken

Sorry, I didn’t read everyone’s response. Am holding my head in shame, Suzie

It’s hardly a long thread is it? And what you posted was wrong anyway

Sorry, I didn’t read everyone’s response. Am holding my head in shame, Suzie

SpringyChicken

If in tier three, isn’t the instruction not to travel unless it’s essential?

I’ve already explained this - it’s guidance not law

If in tier three, isn’t the instruction not to travel unless it’s essential?

Please do not have a fallout in the family on this (or any other such issue), In all times, particularly the hard ones as they are, arguments and fallouts are just about the worst things.
Obviously, your Mum wants and needs company, particularly as her home sharer is out working for so long each week, leaving her by herself.
Do remember Mums mental health requirements need to be factored in to any arrangements for her.
Are you able to see her at all?
Yes, Sister B could count herself as in a bubble with Mum and Sister A. although if she is, at present in a Tier 3 area then that would probably have to be in suspension for now.
Please try to work this out amicably as the last thing any of you want to come out of this is any form of long-term family break up,.

I’m rather uncomfortable with the whole of sister B’s proposal, what does ‘part’ of her bubble mean? and as she’s tier 3, no way.
I think your Mum is exposed already, her choice I understand, with sister A.

Govt guidance (not law) is that support bubble or no support bubble people should limit as much as possible moving between tiers 2 and 3 to visit people and/or stay overnight. That makes complete sense to me especially given the age and health of the mother in this family. How can it be right (morally) for someone to come from a Tier 3 area and behave like this including taking the mother out for lunch?

I think family peace is far more important than the rule book. I suppose both A and B are carers of some sort for your mum. How old is she? I personally think it is OK for A sand B to be involved with your Mum's care and all use the usual precautions. Hope you all make up soon.

Franbern,
Mum and Anna (A) are mother and daughter.
Anna works in a hospital, not a care home. We are lucky enough to have two major hospitals and Anna works in the "clean" hospital, and is massively hygenic.
I am sister C.

Or are you sister C?

How was the fact that Mum was sheltered earlier this year work out with her flat mate (Anna) continuing to work in a Care home setting? Did she and Mum keep totally separate during that time?
Sister B Brenda lives by herself, and therefore - totally with the rules - can be in a bubble with Mum.
You say Mum and I are in tier 2 - does that mean that you are Sister A and the one living with Mum?