Second national lockdown declared in France

We won’t be far behind

Not yet active for for ordinary attestation, since lockdown has not yet begun. But I see you can already register a need to attend to animals during curfew. Expect there will be a similar clause for general purposes after midnight tonight.
I cannot understand why anyone would ever have had to apply to the Mairie for a dispensation every time they went to attend to animals last time, even, although it did not work smoothly until it became available on the phone.
France has had more experience now. I'm sure it will be just fine.

Agree MissA it’s quite worrying that France is back in that predicament after the earlier strict lockdown. Same in other European countries where mask wearing, inside and outside, has been the norm.

A lockdown doesn't necessarily mean filling in forms. We didn't have to do so in Denmark in the spring, nor were there restrictions on how much outdoor exercise we might take, as long as we took it alone and kept two metres away from anyone we met.

I don't think the Germans are filling in forms, either, it is much more a French and Italian way of controlling a lockdown.

soldiersailor

I live in France and having to complete a form each time we went out was indeed a pain. But we had a simple solution: fill in the form in ink but with the relevant date/time, etc in pencil then rub it out and use it again. No ink problems, saves a few trees and takes no time at all.

Exactly what I did except I used a roller pen. It’s really not a problem, neither is the mask. I have just finished market buying meat and vegetables to freeze for the next week. Personally I think it is a good idea for infants to wear masks, they have to when their parents shop in the mall, where they have no problems. It will help to protect the teachers as a lot of children, (and adults) do not cover their mouths when they cough or sneeze.
People are allowed to go for walks with their pets, so feeding the horses shouldn’t be either, just maybe have a paper to say you own them.

Also, if the horses are part of her work/livelihood then that should be covered under the category for travail anyway.

And I’ve already seen three fb posts to ‘party’ tonight before lockdown, from bars, not private residences

To be honest I wish here inSweden we would have a lock down, cant see it happening now.

soldiersailor

I live in France and having to complete a form each time we went out was indeed a pain. But we had a simple solution: fill in the form in ink but with the relevant date/time, etc in pencil then rub it out and use it again. No ink problems, saves a few trees and takes no time at all.

Sounds like a plan - until you are stopped and have to show your form. Entries in pencil can easily be changed to allow anyone to stay out or away from home for any time to suit themselves! This was carefully explained to a friend who did just that, by the Gendarmes. Only permanent pens are acceptable, apparently. Best use the app on your 'phone to produce if averse to form filling, wasting printer ink and trees!

Lockdown not necessary ...here's why.
twitter.com/BreesAnna/status/1321846665591095296?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Jaxjacky does that make you as cross as it makes me? Who are these people under the impression they are cheating? Only themselves and whoever they might infect! Things look pretty gri in France, and I gather there are riots in Italy and demonstrations from those who are refusing to accept lockdown. What a mess!

'..grim in France' - my typing doesn't improve.

soldiersailor
“I live in France and having to complete a form each time we went out was indeed a pain. But we had a simple solution: fill in the form in ink but with the relevant date/time, etc in pencil then rub it out and use it again. No ink problems, saves a few trees and takes no time at all.”
I thought they collected all those forms each time and filed them away. I’m sure our police couldn’t be bothered with all that filing. Bureaucracy at its best!

I'm very upset about the health of my close friend in France who has been diagnosed with bowel cancer and needs an operation. Which has been delayed for months because of this cursed virus. She's in a lot of discomfort/pain.
We used to see eachother nearly every daywhen we lived there, walking dogs, shopping etc for many years.
France's health system had a good reputation, but can't cope with these new pressures.

Does anyone know if they have Nightingale type hospitals in France?
Last time round I heard they were sending patients from Paris to Rennes with doctors and nurses on trains!!

We are so lucky here in the UK for all the problems with our NHS that people did receive the treatment they needed for Coronavirus. This time I hope we can manage to keep our other services going too. People with cancer shouldn’t have to wait.

So difficult when schools are open. Many people live more than 1 from schools . Many older pupils use public transport. Our local shops are full of pupils inside ( wearing masks ) and out ( not wearing masks) before and after school. Local parks have many pupils from different year groups All playing in same equipment. My partners daughter has a Covid positive classmate . SHE skd she alone in that household has to self isolate , too young to be confined to her bedroom for days on end really and all other household members can continue as per usual unless displaying symptoms!!!!! I cannot imagine with this reasoning that we will be Covid free any time soon !!! Btw this info was in the gov guidelines letter from
School......

Ellianne there were some emergency hospitals opened by the military in the first wave, but also lots of patients airlifted or taken by hospital trains to other regions. That is one of the reasons for national lockdown now, so that other regions can use spare capacity to support hard-hit areas.
Fennel I am surprised about your friend - assume it is in the south-west? As far as I know cancer treatments have been continuing. The tension hospitalière has been rising in the last few weeks, but was low over the summer.

I am still having regular check ups for my cancer and have had no change in the original plans, a friend has been diagnosed and had his chemo all during the lockdown - happily he too has been told his cancer is dead.
The normal health services seem to be going on. I cannot work out how they are managing it but whether it is GP hospital or nurse there are only maybe one or two other patients there.

Mamie yes she's in the SW, where there's a shortage of GPs and Specialistes.
Also there's the language problem - sometimes you have to make a fuss to get what you need - a french lady in the commune is trying to help her now.

Bluesky we only hand in the forms if stopped and I have only been stopped once so most of the time they are wasted. I heard that someone in a local town as fined for altering the date on an unused form. That may or may not be true but we waste a lot of paper & ink.

Thanks Mamie, I guess it makes sense when one area gets saturated with admissions to move the overflow by train. The TGVs are fast, but it just looked so weird to see stretchers piled across the headrests of the seats!

Fennel perhaps your friend would benefit by contacting CSF in France, if she hasn't already done so. The charity does amazing work of all kinds for those with cancer - hospital visit and consultation and treatment support, language problems and translation, home visits, household help, counselling, general advice, etc., Their main website will give details according to the area lived in and telephone contact numbers for assistance. Hope that might help.
cancersupportfrance.org

I'm in France as well. All this form filling business was
really only the first week (I only printed one piece of paper
and added the new time every day and it was accepted on a
Gendarme check)
However by the second week all you had to do was have the
'attestation' on your phone and put in the hour as you went
out - easy peasy , I did it a couple of times a day to walk my dog, it wasn't difficult.

I suspect that most of us Brits who live in France are lucky enough to have large gardens and so plenty of space around us.

Macron spoke for about 30 minutes on Wednesday night and explained why he was taking the particular measures chosen and why he did not chose others.

Given that my OH is in the middle of various repair jobs around the house we went in to Perigueux this afternoon - masses of traffic and everyone with the same idea I think. We then went food shopping. By then it was around 5.00pm and several empty shelves in Lidl and Grand Frais. No potatoes in the latter or green veg. I did manage to get some bergamots so will be making marmalade at the weekend. But, if it's like last time the shops soon re-stock.