National Lockdown to be announced next week?

Whitewavemark2

I hope there will be some announcement for help for businesses.

So do I, we were allowed to stay open in a limited form last lockdown as we were supplying critical construction .

Will have to wait and dissect the information on the Government Website.

Not going to start until Thursday. Never really understand these long delays in announcing an action, and taking it.

I hope there will be some announcement for help for businesses.

I think I'll put the Christmas tree up tonight ...

I saw an appalling interview on tv yesterday The middle aged man had gone "over the border" to avoid local regulations as he wanted to visit a bookies and have a drink. The interviewer told him it was against the rules to which he replied "Rules are made to be broken" In the same news item younger people were saying we need a complete lockdown.
Who is getting the bad press now?

Why didn’t he have the balls to say to Sturgeon “Hang on, I’m the boss, Mrs”?

Cause she would have told him where to get off?

I suppose the little woman should have done what she was told......

whatdayisit Yep! This! Exactly!

maddyone, dead right! The way this has been handled between England, Scotland and Wales has been divisive to say the least. It’s supposed to be the UNITED Kingdom. And BoJo is supposed to be the PM of the U.K. Why didn’t he have the balls to say to Sturgeon “Hang on, I’m the boss, Mrs”?

They want a national lockdown as the regional ones don’t work- despite the poodles in the cabinet up until yesterday swearing blind that they do- parroting the Cummings line no doubt, Such a shame we have this bunch of muppets who were chosen for their willingness to chant Brexit means Brexit like a class of infants rather than any discernible talent.

Probably leaked so people who want can get to their second homes away from busy cities .

"Boris Johnson isn't God!"
Really? I would like to know how much members of SAGE are getting paid to give expert advice which has continually being ignored by the man who isn't God.
I would like to know why one of them doesn't put there reputation before the money and say I'm not advising this Government when they refuse to listen. Instead they stand next to him not agreeing but not making a stand.
How many lives would have been saved had we locked down before Mother's Day. And again they may decide to go into lockdown sometime but first we will let people enjoy Halloween.

Sadgrandma, wouldn't it be a good idea to send all students home 24 hours before this lockdown ends (Dec 2nd?). Then the rest of us can go about our lives safely in preparation for Christmas. I have just seen Liverpool on skynews and there were 100s of students queueing outside a fancy dress shop to get their Halloween costumes for this weekend's parties. I despair.

Happy retirement alltheglitterglue. No doubt you are relieved.
I'm happy to go into a nationwide lockdown even though the South West doesn't have many cases compared with other areas. It is hopefully for the good of the whole country. What I would object to is closing the schools in our area when things are under control. That would be unfair to our local children.

Jaxjacky

I find the continuous ‘point scoring’ between parts of the UK and other countries rather wearing. I’ve see expats in France, earlier this year smugly congratulating the French government and pitying those in the UK. There are no ‘winners’ I don’t believe any head of state/government gets up every day planning death, I imagine many have trouble sleeping at all. They are all human beings, most with families, many personally touched by this horrendous virus, ‘be kind’ seems to have got lost.

Well said Jaxjacky.

No more £10 meals this time. What an insane idea that was !!

That's good Mamie.

I’m in the South West, I work in a school and a close member of my family works in the local main hospital.

There aren’t many cases here, possibly because a high proportion of the population is elderly and they haven’t resumed a full life post lockdown e.g. lots still shielding and no large gatherings.

At my school 1000 students, 3 cases. All bubbles isolated and no further cases.

I’m happy to reveal this because I’m leaving education as of Monday (after half term)

If there is another lockdown I think that local compliance will be high because things never really went back to normal.

The French mobile phone app has been replaced. We didn't have to download it, it just replaced the old one. It is much better and tells you on a daily basis that you have not been exposed to high-risk (unless you have I suppose). We can also use it to fill in the self-certification for leaving the house and get an update on the day's national infection statistics.

songstress60

No sense in having a lockdown. It did not work before, and it will not work now. All it will do is cause more economic probems, and cause delays in medical treatment. People are dying more of other things than Covid due to delays in treatment, also parks and nature reserves were closed last time. That is going to impact greatly on mental health.

Well yes lockdown did work, it suppressed the virus but not surprisingly, when we opened most things up again, cases began to rise. The Government are trying to balance the virus cases against the economics of this country, an impossible job I think.

Jane10

He's not God. It's such a complex area that it's hard for anyone to plot a way through this with complete accuracy. Other countries are in the same state.

Well said Jane10

If we do have to go back into lockdown I don't understand why universities will be kept open as it seems to me that things got worse when students went back. Surely students could study just as effectively on-line from home. I am very worried that we won't be able to look after our three year old granddaughter two days a week again. It broke our hearts last time and she really missed us.

Personally totally fed up with everyone blaming government.
Whichever way they go there’ll be those who want and do the opposite.
If everyone who can stay at home does so, if everyone who has to work complied with hands, face and space rules. If nobody visited others, partied indoors or out and had sneaky little hugs we just might get through this.
We have to stop whining about Christmas, birthdays and holidays and make some sacrifices for the good of all.

songstress60

No sense in having a lockdown. It did not work before, and it will not work now. All it will do is cause more economic probems, and cause delays in medical treatment. People are dying more of other things than Covid due to delays in treatment, also parks and nature reserves were closed last time. That is going to impact greatly on mental health.

But if they don't lockdown and reduce cases, even MORE delays in treatment will happen.

If the hospitals are jam packed with covid victims, there will be no space for other patients, and there will also be many more deaths in hospital of those admitted for other reasons, who contract covid in a weakened state.

Jaxjacky

I find the continuous ‘point scoring’ between parts of the UK and other countries rather wearing. I’ve see expats in France, earlier this year smugly congratulating the French government and pitying those in the UK. There are no ‘winners’ I don’t believe any head of state/government gets up every day planning death, I imagine many have trouble sleeping at all. They are all human beings, most with families, many personally touched by this horrendous virus, ‘be kind’ seems to have got lost.

I agree, Jaxjacky.

We do need a united effort in this.
As someone else pointed out, as Wales comes out of a fire break, England will be going into another lockdown.
There is no wall between, we are all supposedly part of a united country.
Perhaps those living on the borders notice the divisions most keenly.

No sense in having a lockdown. It did not work before, and it will not work now. All it will do is cause more economic probems, and cause delays in medical treatment. People are dying more of other things than Covid due to delays in treatment, also parks and nature reserves were closed last time. That is going to impact greatly on mental health.