National Lockdown to be announced next week?

GG13 Well said! What will be will be.

Nannan2 and MawB2. That was uncalled for. DC64 was making light hearted comments - not to be taken too seriously.

Omits01

One hopes not everybody will do that!

As Cabbie21 said!

One hopes not everybody will do that!

GrannyGravy13

There is no point stressing until we find out what will be happening in England.

PM and Government have made mistakes, all Countries are learning as they go and each Country has different demographics, different ways of policing and differing respect for authority.

Wise words, GG13.

I am not sure why anyone should be surprised. This has always been on the cards. The government have been saying for a long time that it wont be discounted. It won't be the same as before in that schools will not be closed. I suspect that Universities will be online only though. Stay safe x

Probably a bit late again but think it’s inevitable. All schools should be part time I think.

There is no point stressing until we find out what will be happening in England.

PM and Government have made mistakes, all Countries are learning as they go and each Country has different demographics, different ways of policing and differing respect for authority.

Nannan2 ????

Jane10

Now I'm scared. I never was before but somehow, this time, I'm worried. DH and I will lockdown without being told to.

Jane10 I feel the same I am quite scared this time and have no faith in the Government at all.
I will not be going out at all only to walk my little dog early morning or late evening when no one is around.
Does anyone know please will this lockdown that is expected make my hospital appointment due 19th Nov unable to go ahead ? It has been cancelled twice this year and getting quite serious now.

“NEW: No 10 has launched official leak inquiry via cabinet sec after details of meeting btwn PM/Hancock/Sunak/Gove were leaked last night. No 10 had wanted to hold announcements until Monday and now having to change plans. There are some very furious people in govt this morning“

“It’s what happens when you have eroded trust inside and outside government. It’s what happens when you allow the GoveCummingsCain culture to take hold. It’s what happens when intelligent people think the prime minister and his team are not up to it.“

No, I don't think that the government is capable of organising a national response. Doesn't mean to say that it should not have happened. If only there were some grown ups in the house.

Should have gone into lockdown four weeks ago...

What I don’t get is that ’The lockdown will begin...(2/3 days hence) as if the virus will not be dangerous in the meantime. I was sickened to see young people in Nottingham dancing and hugging in the street with no masks or social distancing on the night before lockdown began - there was no sign of any attempt to stop or arrest any of them.

DC64- "just got rid of"?- is that how you feel about your kids who may be at risk of this disease thats claiming folks family members?!! And you "can't take anymore homeschooling of your 14 yr old?"!! (Who at that age mainly do it all online with peers/teachers anyway!) Its not like theyre 6 is it?!!! Words bl**dy fail me! Im ashamed that any parent would put these 'greivances' before the health/safety of their own offspring!

To the people who are saying we should have co-operation across the three countries. Do you seriously think that the current government will do what is right for Wales or Scotland? They can't even do what's right for most of England. Do you think Johnson & co will listen to the governments of Wales and Scotland and consider their situation?

And Mollygo, the "I know how to do it better brigade" you talk of have never actually said that, assuming that you mean Scotland. But its a nice prop to lean on, that we are doing things just to be different. You might want to have a look at the graph I posted earlier that shows how much better Scotland is doing in controlling the rise than other countries. Might all go pear shaped tomorrow, of course, but I'll take my chances with our system rather than the chaos in other parts of the UK.

It will be interesting to see if there is the same compliance as last time. I have a feeling those who have followed rules will continue to do so,others will do as they like if they can get away with it! I find it frustrating when such news is leaked,hopefully people wont be stockpiling this weekend.
In March we had a vestige of faith in the government but since then it's hard to think of what they've succeeded at. Something needed doing but probably to little to late. I'm sure Johnson will dangle Christmas as an incentive.

I told college im concerned,as my son is vulnerable due to his disabilities & neurological&respiratory conditions, when he catches any bug at all it makes him very ill, (he got one first wk back in september,was ill 3wks, but not covid thank God!) I asked if he could work online but their answer was no! I explained we all 3 in our house have underlying conditions, but all they said was he could take rest of year out and "start again" next year- so in effect cancelling/losing the work hes already put in (whilst at risk) for this year, or to go back and take the health risks! (He's not a 'typical' teen he doesn't go out socialising, & is very careful to use ppe,hand gel etc. i explained it all to them!) But still no joy, but all of a sudden theres online learning till 9th november- but then i presume they expect him back in! Its bloody ridiculous! At least before there was a chance to 'shield' but now gov't changed that advice thousands of people are going to feel very vulnerable indeed!

I don’t think I can stand any more homeschooling my 14 year old - and I have only just got rid of my 3rd year Uni student to Leeds. Just want that shower scene from dynasty - 2020 has all been a dream - and Bobby is fine ??

Being indoors with anyone ( other than those you live with) seems to be the most risky thing to do, which is why I am avoiding it, apart from a quick whizz round Aldi either first thing or late at night.

It won't be forever Barmey. You'll get out on that bike!
I really wish the whole UK worked to a united set of rules rather than the confusing hotch potch we have now.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. We are in unchartered waters and who knows what the ' right' action is. The Labour Party only have to criticise decisions made by the government without the need to make any....what would they really do to appease everyone. Unfortunately party politics is always at the for front of all discussions. I noticed on the TV this morning the mayor of Middlesbrough (independent) discussing the area going into tier 3 of lockdown. How measured and thoughtful was his interview compared to interviews or should I say rants of the mayor of Manchester(labour), Has someone got his eye on No. 10!!!!!

I’m so glad I live in Wales as we are two weeks ahead in the fight. There was a thread on here last week doubting the wisdom of the Welsh Government’s decision - they were right.

maddyone

At this time it would have made sense for the three countries on mainland Britain to have acted as one, and for NI to have acted along with Southern Ireland. But that’s cooperation, so that would never happen!

There may be more chance if this now they’ve ALL found out how difficult it is to make a decision that everyone will adhere to.
Even NS couldn’t stop the virus and she was so certain that she would ‘get it right’.
The cooperation you suggest would have to be accompanied by cooperation from the
‘I know how to do it better’ and ‘you can’t tell me what to do’ sections of the population.
Likelihood of that happening . . .

There's no co-operation between the 4 nations of the UK because Johnson is offering no leadership at all. Lucky Scotland, Wales and NI to have leaders who care about the wellbeing of their citizens rather than a petulant overgrown infant who wouldn't lockdown earlier because the leader of the opposition suggested that we should have a circuit breaker, as recommended by SAGE on 21st September.

As usual we have no details because the news has been broken by a 'leak' to favoured newspapers and we apparently have to wait for them until Monday when the glorious leader will address the nation...

In the meantime, no doubt, supermarkets will be stripped of toilet rolls and pasta..

I don't think this lockdown is going to be as effective as the spring one because a) there won't be such a high level of compliance and b) schools (and unis) are one of the key areas of spread of the virus at the moment and the govt is apparently planning to keep them open. c) people are worried sick about their financial situation. If Sunak doesn't come up with a good and comprehensive support plan there could be a lot of businesses and workers defying the lockdown..