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Scaling back GP care

(115 Posts)
growstuff Wed 11-Nov-20 22:18:37

So where are the GPs Daisymae? Have you bee spying on the surgery to know they're not there? I generally don't like phone consultations, unless it's for something straightforward, but they do at least save a trip to the surgery, so can be convenient. They still take the GP as long to speak on the phone as to see someone in person.

Iam64 Wed 11-Nov-20 21:56:38

Daisymae, I suspect the nurse practitioners are being used to full capacity. The doctors aren’t “missing” - where do you think the are? They’re working as maddyone sets out,

Daisymae Wed 11-Nov-20 17:27:06

I am wondering how they are going to attempt to organise this. Many have not by able to get a flu jab and we are talking many, many more millions. If they practically stop the GP service there will be a tremendous cost. Has this been factored into their plans? Is a headlong rush the best plan? I don't know it could be, but there actions need to be considered. Our GPs have been missing. The surgery is run by nurse practitioners.

BlueBelle Wed 11-Nov-20 14:45:29

If your practice is not coming up to standard (which I quite believe because my friend in a nearby town is getting nowhere with hers) why not put a complaint in or better still change practices missfoodlove I certainly wouldn t put up with a practice that did nothing for 9 months when you needed something doing

M0nica Wed 11-Nov-20 14:31:37

Well, GP scaling back came close to killing DD during first lockdown. IF the GP had seen her rather than just speaking to her on the phone, it wouldn't have happened because he would have ordered a blood test.

Missfoodlove Wed 11-Nov-20 14:16:19

Maddyone, I am not a liar.

I’m sure your daughter and son in law have provided a fantastic service.

My practice have not.

Not every practice is the same!

maddyone Wed 11-Nov-20 13:53:58

Our practice have done basically nothing for 9 months

I think it’s appalling that people spread these kinds of lies. My daughter and her husband are GPs. Here’s what they have been doing for the last nine months.

1) phone call consultations with patients
2) video consultations with patients
3) face to face consultations and examinations which require full PPE to be worn
4) care home visits to see their elderly patients
5) palliative care to dying patients, particularly in care homes
6) working in the Covid Hub
7) leadership role (my daughter only) ensuring the delivery of services across the area
8) attending Practice meetings (socially distanced)
9) attending leadership meetings (zoom)
10) trawling through thousands of patients to identify patients who need to shield and
writing to inform these patients
11) reading copious amounts of government documentation and new regulations, and
putting these recommendations into practice
12) working extra shifts at night or at weekend doing care home visits or working in the
Covid Hub
13) organisation of flu vaccines to be administered in a Covid secure manner
14) working many longer hours to ensure delivery of the above, my daughter worked twelve hour days regularly, her husband worked longer in his practice and then in the Covid Hub evenings and weekends

In addition they are parents to three young children, twins aged six and a three year old. Childcare dried up during the first lockdown (grandparents were not allowed to care for grandchildren) and so in addition nursery provision had to be secured for their youngest child (then two years old) and the twins placed in keyworker care. This involved the organisation of delivering and collecting of children to and from different sites which were some five miles apart as not all nurseries were open for key workers. Obviously shopping, cooking, entertaining and education for the children had to be fitted into their schedule, and my daughter was worried and stressed that she hadn’t time to do school work properly with her children. In addition they had to juggle their own schedules in order to deliver and collect the children.

And all the majority of us Gransnetters had to do was stay at home and stay safe.

jane1956 Wed 11-Nov-20 13:47:56

agree they hide behind it, was late having type 2 bloods, have not had my retina test for 16 months so not happy

Sar53 Wed 11-Nov-20 13:33:31

My surgery has done well also. I've had 3 telephone conversations with a doctor, one face to face and one referral to see a consultant at the local hospital which happened after about 4 weeks. I was the only person at the hospital, was seen immediately and the doctor spent at least 20 minutes talking to me. I was quite impressed.

BlueBelle Wed 11-Nov-20 13:26:30

My surgery seems have done well I ve had two phone consultations which happened within hours of me asking for them I had my flu jab at the pharmacy but I was invited to my surgery so could equally have had it done at the surgery
My close friend at a different surgery has had two minor procedures and a number of face to face visits with her doctor and her flu jab so they seem good here

Jaxjacky Wed 11-Nov-20 13:13:42

I’ve had a face to face and an ecg at my surgery in the last few months, gp’s were also administering flu jabs alongside practice nurses.

Iam64 Wed 11-Nov-20 12:56:23

I don't believe the GPs are "hiding behind covid". My retired GP's have children who are medics. The retired ones have been asked to return, their children are pulled out of surgery to help in hospitals.
I wonder if the pandemic has led to the specialist nurses being much more involved in parent care. My ECG will be done by the practice nurse tomorrow. She examined and prescribed when I had a recent chest infection. I've spoken to three of the doctors by phone during lockdown. Yes, I'd much rather sit in their surgery and talk to them but I understand the reluctance to have people unnecessarily going into the practice during these dark days.

Marydoll Wed 11-Nov-20 12:50:56

I feel the same. I usually have monthly check ups at my surgery.
Not once since lockdown has my GP been in contact. I feel abandoned.

I have had to do all the chasing about bloods etc and changes in treatment, due to hospital, telephone consultations.

On the other hand, my lovely consultant has been phoning me on a regular basis to check if I am OK.

Missfoodlove Wed 11-Nov-20 12:47:43

Our practice has basically done nothing for 9 months!

They have hidden behind Covid.

It’s the nurses that administer the vaccinations, this job could also be done by pharmacists.

Daisymae Wed 11-Nov-20 12:02:21

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/10/gps-in-england-will-scale-back-care-to-deliver-covid-vaccines while I would like to believe that the government have carried out a cost benefit analysis, risk assessments etc with senior medical staff with their track record I do have my doubts.