Feeling frustrated with colleagues

I thought the advice/legal requirements at the moment are that travel anywhere, except for work or other exceptions is not allowed: this is taken from the government website:

you must not travel in the UK or overseas, unless for a specific reason, like education, work or a caring responsibility

Therefore, your colleagues are not complying with the lockdown requirements.

No one knows enough about this virus to say if you’ve had it you can’t pass it on and it’s only serious for 0.1 %
At least 4% of people die from Covid 19 if you use the figures provided by ONS, not to mention those who suffer from long Covid, who even after 7 months are still suffering and not back to work. We’re in a National Lockdown - non essential travel is not allowed, nor is staying away from your main residence overnight. It is against the law just like theft, assault, manslaughter so I think the OP has every right to have a little rant when we are all bound by those rules for the protection of everyone and colleagues are flouting them. I personally want to thank everyone who is following the rules whether they agree with them or not ?

A lot of the information churned out are recommendations not laws. But even so people still buck against laws if they don't suit them eg wanting to go away for a few days. Not sure about the travel issue is law or recomnendation. As to being immune only last week woman featured on news highlighting she had Covid in February and was quite ill. Contracted it again in September and not recovering very well. There may well be immunity initially but looks as if may not be long lasting. I'd just WFH and avoid contract with selfish colleagues. Also those with immunity can still pass it on by touching infected surfaces you then touch, hence the clean hands message.

Why do people not see lockdown as a life-saver rather than an inconvenience?

Yes, its possible to get the virus more than once.
No, we shouldn't be travelling during lockdown other than for essential purposes.
Yes its tedious that the R was so high yesterday yet this necessary lock down is being ignored by so many.

Bijou, your 85 year old neighbour's is more understandable to me than the behaviour of the OP's colleagues. At 85 she may well feel she wants to live every day.

I had no symptoms for Covid in March but lost my sense of taste and smell which I have still not regained.I was asked did I want an antibody test which I did 3 weeks ago and it was positive for the antibodies so 7 months on I have antibodies but the literature that came with my test said I could still get it again or pass it on so to follow all the guidelines.

My 85 year old neighbour goes out every day to different shops and supermarkets to pass the time. In theFactory Shop (that was allowed to open because they sold a few cleaning materials) no one was wearing masks so she took hers off. In one supermarket a carer pushed in front of her and was helping her charge to choose a quiche and was handling all of them. For some people the lockdown makes no difference.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

I had the virus in March/April, no doctor, no test but all the symptoms. I dialled 111 and isolated for four weeks.
I slept most of the time. I 'came out' on the same day as Boris.
He went off to his country estate, my first trip was to the recycling bins, I reflected that I was probably more delighted than he was.
I had my diabetic check two weeks ago and an anti-body test was done at the same time, the doctor remarked "I see you have had the virus, you have the anti bodies". this was six months later!
PS. I am 83 next week and now have an excuse for my absent mindedness, I say it's 'Covid-fog'.
Take care, do what you know is best for all.

Travel is one of those ‘not allowed’ activities, unless a person has to travel for work. We can ‘travel’ to do essential shopping, or to give care to someone, and there maybe another couple of reasons, but basically we’re not supposed to travel otherwise. It’s not allowed to travel to stay in a second home, which has upset my son but he’s sticking to the rules, and it’s not allowed to stay away from your primary residence overnight, unless you’re in a bubble with someone, or giving care to someone.
However the best advice I can give to you is rant on here because you have to work with these people afterwards.

We've stuck to the rules, staying indoors or at our caravan. Apart from that, only been to the supermarket (and that's done at the speed of light to get out and get the face covering off). Yet we now all have flu, brought home by our son from his work place. We're waiting for testing kits to be delivered, just in case this is covid not flu. So all the lockdowns in the world don't seem to protect, even for those who stick by the rules. In a right old grump now, it's my birthday today and we were going to get a takeaway from a lovely Italian restaurant we usually go to in normal times, and now we've cancelled in case of spreading covid when the food is collected.

This horrible virus will never go away or even get to a manageable level as long as people behave stupidly. I wish everyone would see that. It does my head in big time.

Two friends of mine have been holidaying in Crete this week while we shelter at home in the cold and wet??‍♀️

The colleague worried about catching the virus in case it sabotages her Christmas plans is clearly nuts to be breaking lockdown now for a few days away.
I’d be tempted to send a round robin email round your workplace saying that as others are breaking lockdown to go away now, you’ll be WFH for two weeks following their return to lessen the chance of them infecting you. It might bring home to them how their actions could affect others.

Ignorant attitude.
2nd sentence: yes they can.
Last sentence: try telling that to people who have lost loved ones to this awful virus.

Yes,I thought only necessary travel is allowed until December 2nd. Is that not the case now ?

I thought only essential travel was allowed? Are they off to stop with family then as I can’t see hotels and B&B accommodation taking holiday bookings?

Overnight stays away from home (even in their 2nd homes) would be breaking lockdown rules. Hotels are allowed to be open, but only for business stays and exceptional circumstances like people attending funerals or housing homeless people.

Apparently (although I don't know what one can believe at the moment) of the over 50,000,000 people who have had the virus only 25 have had it twice and a couple of those are doubtful. I heard that on Times Radio yesterday morning.

Second sentence :- yes they can

Last sentence:- try telling that to the relatives of those who have died from this virus.

Ignorant attitude.

I am sorry Taliya but we have very little evidence that suggests that having had it once you are then immune, it really all seems to depend upon the person and any immunity seems to be strictly temporary. From my experience public transport is FAR from safe with far too many folk using buses especially without masks (supposedly exempt) which only a few bus drivers seem to challenge/question.

I thought only necessary travel was allowed? Are they going from a high area to a low area?

I'm not sure why you are so upset. If one of your colleagues has already had the virus then they will have immunity and can't pass it on to anyone. If they are both using public transport wearing face masks then that's a low risk. If it helps cheer them up and keep them sane then don't be judgemental. I work with race horses so work in a risky environment so maybe I have a different attitude to risk and safety. 99.9 per cent of people don't get badly ill with this virus.

I’m glad you don’t have to come into contact with them while they’re willing to take risks!

Thanks both, yes ranting here is the best option!

@Blossoming WFH. One of them goes in to the office a few times a week but nearly everyone is WFH.