Gransnet forums

Coronavirus

Opening our windows

(119 Posts)
MawBe Mon 23-Nov-20 10:21:28

A good article in the DT this morning about something I imagine we all grew up with - the benefit of opening windows. Apologies for a longish cut and paste but I hope it is worth it.

“While we await, with guarded optimism, the much-heralded Covid-19 vaccine, simpler (and much cheaper) protective measures should not be neglected. Hence the concern expressed by Professor Edward Lynch in this paper last week after noting the windows were closed in 78 out of the 80 buses he recently observed passing Waterloo Station. “Good ventilation is extremely important,” he writes, a view echoed in an article in the Journal of Hospital Infection describing the role of fresh air in combating infectious illnesses prior to the discovery of antibiotics.

Fresh air is lethal to most viruses... and loses its potency when outdoor air is enclosed
The twin goals of promoting recovery while also preventing cross-infection and reinfection were addressed, writes Dr Richard Hobday, by nursing patients next to an open window or placing them in their beds outside. He cites too the experience of the Camp Brooks Open Air Hospital near Boston, built at short notice at the height of the devastating 1918-19 Spanish flu pandemic. In good weather, patients spent virtually all their time outdoors, kept warm in their beds at night by hot water bottles and extra blankets. The survival rate was almost twice that of conventional hospitals while just two out of the 150 staff contracted the highly contagious virus.

Subsequently, Dr Hobday reports that scientists in the Sixties identified an “open-air factor” in fresh air that is specifically lethal to most bacteria and viruses, and which loses its potency when outdoor air is enclosed. So, open those windows – and for those lucky enough to have a garden, a firepit – sales of which are booming – should hopefully see them through the winter months unscathed.”

Sweetchile Tue 24-Nov-20 09:43:05

Windows open whatever the weather here can't sleep with bedroom window shut. Was in hospital before lockdown the nurses kept shutting our windows we were south facing and to top it all a workman came to fix the sticking window and screwed it shut. Needless to say screw was removed later.

Woodmouse Tue 24-Nov-20 09:25:33

I've been a Window Opener all my life, especially bathroom and kitchen. I like to sleep with bedroom windows open but my DH doesn't so I agree to have them closed. I think my love of fresh air might be why we seldom catch colds.

PamelaJ1 Tue 24-Nov-20 09:11:14

At the moment I am not too worried about catching COVID or anything else at home because we are the only ones here and we haven’t got it. I do open the windows a little in the bedroom at night and as we go in and out of the outside doors fairly frequently we get some fresh air in then.
Sometimes , depending where you live the outside air can be quite polluted.
I am starting to investigate an air exchange system though, maybe I will start a thread to see if anyone else has one.

Puzzler61 Tue 24-Nov-20 08:52:30

Ellianne I think my daughter would go for that look, she’s a real snow bunny and adores being on snowy mountains.
I hear the sense of opening windows MawBe and open them most of the year. But in winter I can’t bring myself to do it. Too blooming chilly. We always say our house is on “windy corner”.
I just have those vents at the top of the windows open.

Sarnia Tue 24-Nov-20 08:47:54

Having a builder for a husband meant windows opened every day whatever the weather. He was asked so many times to go and see a damp problem in somebody's house only to find it was a lack of ventilation. We exhale moisture as we sleep so open windows allow the stale, damp air out and the fresh, dry air in. Much healthier, virus or no virus.

Carenza123 Tue 24-Nov-20 08:40:25

I remember my mother having a”blow through” getting rid of stale air and considered healthy. My daughter loves to do the same. The majority of people today do not believe in this practice. My husband is always encouraging his sister to open her windows but she also never has a “blow through”. I think it’s beneficial for health.

Iam64 Tue 24-Nov-20 08:29:34

Thanks MawB - my daughters are now in their mid 30's and have told me they now "do a mum" and open all the windows in their houses.

sodapop Tue 24-Nov-20 08:23:49

No central heating here either so the windows are open as often as possible. Bedroom windows open all night. The only time I keep them closed is when its really hot, wish I could afford air conditioning.

travelsafar Tue 24-Nov-20 08:15:36

I like to feel warm and cosy but also love fresh air. So Windows open in the mornings and closed as it starts to get dark late afternoon. Love a walk in winter, wrapped up and with a blue sky and sunshine, or even a damp dark rainy day.

Calendargirl Tue 24-Nov-20 07:32:26

I agree with you BlueBelle, that there is little point having the heating on when windows are open.

Our heating is off in the daytime, and overnight.

Only goes on if it’s really cold, and then the windows are closed.

Bellasnana Tue 24-Nov-20 07:24:53

Large patio door in living room is always open when I’m at home. Smaller patio door in bedroom is always open, day and night. I have insect screens to stop any unwanted visitors getting in! It’s still not cold enough to have the door closed at night.

Blossoming Mon 23-Nov-20 19:01:29

My OH opens windows all the time, no matter what the weather. I’m always wrapped in blankets grin

Grannynannywanny Mon 23-Nov-20 18:51:02

I made a failed attempt to post this photo earlier( hopefully my post won’t eventually turn up in triplicate)
I thought it might be of interest to teachers who have students complaining about windows open in cold weather.

It was taken in the 1930s in an outdoor fresh air school in Cardiff, intended to reduce the spread of tuberculosis. It looks grim.

Ellianne Mon 23-Nov-20 18:29:29

Callistemon

Children don't wear proper vests any more.

Bring back liberty bodices!

Perhaps these "influencers" could encourage school pupils not to feel the cold!
Apologies in advance.

Callistemon Mon 23-Nov-20 18:19:32

Children don't wear proper vests any more.

Bring back liberty bodices!

Fennel Mon 23-Nov-20 17:16:23

I like open windows too but husband goes around closing them because he says we pay to have the heating on so why waste it?
So I sneakily open them again.
Maybe it's the same reason bus windows are kept closed.

grandMattie Mon 23-Nov-20 15:29:05

Open windows/patio doors, or ajar according to the season. Was born in tropics and can’t bear a lack of “air”!
We keep the thermostat on 15 deg, but our children think it’s tropical!

Missfoodlove Mon 23-Nov-20 15:22:44

Our house according to our 3 AC is Baltic!!
Always thought hospitals and nursing homes were just incubators for germs.
So ridiculously hot.
There was the open air school movement in the 40’s and 50’s it was experimental and didn’t last long but I know the city I live in did have a “ fresh air school”

ElaineI Mon 23-Nov-20 15:13:42

I think the schools are meant to have windows open just now. DD1 has and she teaches P1. Children are allowed coats on. We have windows open most of day and on latch at night unless it is blowing a force 10 gale! Like a freshly aired house.

BlueBelle Mon 23-Nov-20 15:02:55

If like most people you have central heating aren’t you just heating the streets?
I don’t have central heating so my house is never over heated bedroom window gets opened in the morning shut later in the day
My granddaughter has an hours bus ride to school and an hour back and with all the bus windows open has two hours of a cold old journey They have the windows open in the school sit they ll probably all go down with freezingitis ?

GagaJo Mon 23-Nov-20 14:57:06

Ellianne, one student said to me, 'Miss, I can't write. I can't feel my fingers.' It wasn't even a really cold day.

Fingerless gloves. That's the answer.

I sleep with the bedroom wide wide open, year round, and always have. Can't beat fresh air.

TwiceAsNice Mon 23-Nov-20 13:47:13

All windows own all day on spring and summer. Open part of the day now mad in the winter closed again when it starts getting chilly in late afternoon .

silverlining48 Mon 23-Nov-20 13:41:06

I think in Germany opening windows is more common than here. Because of covid they open all windows for 15 minutes two or three times a day for a blow through. Sensible but brrrrr.

Luckygirl Mon 23-Nov-20 13:05:19

I have had workmen in twice in the last week and the poor souls looked freezing as I opened the windows and doors where they were working! But they understood the reasons.

felice Mon 23-Nov-20 12:59:36

Bedroom window is always open, but I have a large garden room the width of the house fronting it. It is only heated if there is frost. The dog and the cats go in and out all the time.
DGS used to like the bedroom window closed but I notice this year he prefers it open.