A bit of good news - we have turned the corner

It’s not over yet

B9 exchange, I hope things will improve but have just heard that Germany who have been held as an example because it managed so much better than the rest of us is now on high alert with many hospitals already full, unable to take more patients because Covid is on the increase, so it’s over yet.

Unfortunately it’s a fact that the ‘we are all doomed’ brigade have always been more vocal than the more positive amongst us on threads.

It’s just the same with any Brexit discussions. We are all doomed there too apparently.

They must spend their lives in a state of constant anxiety.

I'm not lecturing I'm stating a fact.

BlueBelle

I didn’t say it was good did I ?
I was relating a fact I had heard... blooming heck if my post had said great news whooppee I could understand being told to have compassion I said how sad it is but I simply gave a fact I had heard

Exactly Bluebelle.

Well nobody knows what’s going to happen in the near future so I for one will try and remain positive as I always do

Ellianne

Some people need to wake up to the fact that good endorphins boost your mood and actually keep you physically well too! Doom and gloom, and constant negativity, does no one any favours.

Oh, do give up lecturing us.

Ellianne

I have great compassion, that is what I was saying. It would be nice if this thread could end on a positive note not all about death, dying, illness and whose choice it is to live or die.

Well, maybe you think it would, Ellianne, but you don't get to make the rules.

I didn’t say it was good did I ?
I was relating a fact I had heard... blooming heck if my post had said great news whooppee I could understand being told to have compassion I said how sad it is but I simply gave a fact I had heard

Some people need to wake up to the fact that good endorphins boost your mood and actually keep you physically well too! Doom and gloom, and constant negativity, does no one any favours.

Alegrias2

FFS Ellianne and Bluebelle, have some compassion.

I'm sure they'll be more than willing to go before their time should they be struck down by covid. Maybe it's a bit of positivity "Well, let's look on the bright side, we didn't have much time left anyway"

I have great compassion, that is what I was saying. It would be nice if this thread could end on a positive note not all about death, dying, illness and whose choice it is to live or die.

Anyway, the good news is we move into a new month today, Christmas is round the corner too, and tomorrow we move into a new attack on the virus with the tier system. Let's try a bit of positivity

There's nothing positive about the prospect of a post Christmas covid third wave combined with the additional whammy of the end of the Brexit transition period and the chaos resulting from that.

Pollyanna exhortations are unwelcome, I'm afraid.

“Let’s try a bit of positivity”

Hallelujah to that Ellianne !

FFS Ellianne and Bluebelle, have some compassion.

It is of course sad whenever anyone dies, but Bluebelle did say the deaths she heard about on the radio had very little time left to live anyway. Only last night there was a man in his 60s with terminal cancer on the news who told his family he was trying his best to die quickly and they agreed. For them it wasn't a case of we're ok so off you pop. It was that the suffering was unbearable all round.

Anyway, the good news is we move into a new month today, Christmas is round the corner too, and tomorrow we move into a new attack on the virus with the tier system. Let's try a bit of positivity.

MayBee70

‘Do you remember when all those old and terminally ill people died and we were ok because we weren’t old or terminally ill....’

It will be good news to me when everybody accepts that everybody has a right to live as many years or months as they have left - even the old and terminally ill. Enabling that is an end in itself. Hopefully, a vaccine will give them a better chance. A vaccine probably won't protect the rest of the community.

It will also be good news when everybody realises that the herd immunity myths have been debunked.

‘Do you remember when all those old and terminally ill people died and we were ok because we weren’t old or terminally ill....’

BlueBelle

Well listening to the radio today it said 40,000 of the deaths were people with little time of living left, either through great old age or though terminal illnesses, of course it doesn’t make it any better to those involved in losing a loved one, but it does put it more into perspective
I stay very positive and just look for the time we say
Do you remember when .....

Oh, well that's alright then! Maybe we should convert one of the Nightingale hospitals into one of those Swiss clinics.

The City of Manchester's incidence rate is now lower than many Tier 2 areas. I think you live in Stockport - as does my daughter. The problem is that she works in central Manchester, as it's just a short commute, so the two communities mingle. It would be pointless if one were much higher than the other. My daughter has been working at home since March and will continue to do so, but many others don't. The rate has come down quite dramatically in all of Greater Manchester, but some of the outlying towns are still quite high.

As well as being pleased with this news, I was also pleased to hear that my local area might be taken out of tier three rather than being lumped together with Greater Manchester as our infection rate is lower than many tier two areas. Andy Burnam has previously said he was not in favour of different tiers within Greater Manchester but today he hinted that he would now agree.

Although it won’t make any difference to me personally, at least in tier two, pubs and restaurants can remain open with groups of six allowed outside.

I am with vampirequeen. Once Christmas and New Year are over, it will be hell on earth and worse than ever. The months I have spent indoors will have been in vain.

Dont mind me, everyone.
Other things happen

You are forgiven, seeing as you're usually fairly upbeat!
Thank you Ellianne I am usually but not so much at the moment.

B9exchange I had been thinking about starting a "good news only" thread on here - they have one on Mumsnet. But I decided not to and I think that I was probably right, given the way this thread has gone.

Stay positive, good days lie ahead!