Vaccinations from next week

If i received a call tonight to go for the vaccination within the hour i would be there in a flash.
I had covid in April and have sufferred very debilitating health problems since. Any adverse affects from the vaccine can't be as bad as death or long term effects from Covid.
My youngest daughter had the 'rushed through' cervical cancer innoculation when it first came out. She has had stomach problems ever since which could be linked. So i do understand the worry but i just think what is the alternative.

I feel we owe it to society to step up and be vaccinated. People who are going to wait and see how it goes first must be in a lucky position where keeping away from the virus has been an option. I am a careworker and i am just desperate for my charge with learning difficulties and autism to be able to get back into his routine. Not understanding these last few months has been very stressful and quite despairing for him. We work very hard for people with disabilities to have their life within a society which isn't always welcoming to them. This year has plunged so many people to feel isolated but people with learning disabilities cannot reason why there lives have changed so abruptly and so much.
Fingers crossed for a smooth delivery , a high uptake and a successful battle against this damn virus.
Then the country can start the clean up and recovery and we will see what future is left for our grandchildren. At least the vaccine is hope where once there was none.

Alegrias2 Why do my posts bother you? Have I posted anything which is untrue or which isn't backed up by evidence? Don't you think knowledge matters?
It isn't pessimistic to look at all the factors involved and it's certainly not pessimistic to warn about the measures which will need to remain in place even after people are vaccinated. Or to wonder how successful a mass vaccination will be with so many unknowns. You may choose to walk into a situation without knowledge if you wish but some of us prefer to investigate and use our brains.

It’s wonderful news, a light at the end of the tunnel.

Olive53

The fact they want to vaccinate everyone on the planet proves this is nothing about the virus
A virus with over 99% recovery rate doesn’t call for word wide vaccination on this scale
So what’s in these vaccines that’s so important they want everyone to have one ?

That’s right! They may want to turn us all into chimps, while those at the top will opt out and remain human! We will be forced to work for bananas instead of wages.
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A friend of mine has been a guinea pig for the vaccine, he’s been fine. I’m ready and waiting for my turn - it’ll be a relief to go to work without the threat of the virus hanging over me.

trisher what are you getting out of this perpetual pessimism?

The polio vaccine was developed a long time ago. Things move on. We have new technologies now and scientists have tools at their command that the developers of the polio vaccine couldn't even have dreamt of. They knew the genetic structure of the Coronavirus within a month of it jumping to humans.

If we'd always given in to such pessimism we wouldn't have any vaccine at all, we'd all be sitting around feeling sorry for ourselves. We should be happy that we have scientists that have made such terrific discoveries and that we have an NHS that is gearing up for the biggest vaccination campaign in history.

VRH1

Make sure you read the vaccine advice sheet first, ladies (contraindications). Make an ‘informed’ choice.

Is there a link to this information sheet? I'm curious to see it.

I missed the briefing today but heard that the vaccine has been approved. We will definitely be having it as soon as we can. I’ve also heard between the lines though that we will still be wearing masks even when we’ve had the vaccine. Was this discussed? Is this true or is it that some will still prefer to wear them?

Iam64

I'm thrilled about the news about the vaccine. No doubt there will be some blips in the process of organising vaccination programmes.
I share Whitewave's belief that we have a responsibility to each other and the ensuring offered immunity. Apologies to anyone who doesn't like comparisons with animals but, my dogs are immunised because I agree with my vet, herd immunity is important.
The last big vaccination programme in this country affected most of us. I remember sitting in line with mum, waiting to be inoculated against polio. It worked didn't it. Same with smallpox, tb, measles etc -wealthy countries like ours, so many killer diseases have been largely eradicated.

The polio vaccine and others took considerable lengths of time to develop and use successfully. Even then there were a number of hiccups as they were rolled out. Including problems with storing them safely and some batches actually causing polio. I posted the vaccine timeline earier on this thread
What I am negative about is not just the vaccine it is the ability to succesfully carry out a mass vaccination with so many unknowns, and the huge media-fest this has become where none of the warnings which are essential to ensure success are even mentioned.

JVT us wonderful. I was disappointed he wasn't wearing his bandleader suit today though.
I really liked his three Cs plus D and V. Made sense to me. Lovely that he'd got so emotional this morning when he heard the news and happily admitted it.

I'm thrilled about the news about the vaccine. No doubt there will be some blips in the process of organising vaccination programmes.
I share Whitewave's belief that we have a responsibility to each other and the ensuring offered immunity. Apologies to anyone who doesn't like comparisons with animals but, my dogs are immunised because I agree with my vet, herd immunity is important.
The last big vaccination programme in this country affected most of us. I remember sitting in line with mum, waiting to be inoculated against polio. It worked didn't it. Same with smallpox, tb, measles etc -wealthy countries like ours, so many killer diseases have been largely eradicated.

Alegrias2

VRH1 I'm planning on making an informed choice.

My choice is not to die of COVID.

And as part of a wider community we have a responsibility to each other and ensuring herd immunity, which can’t be achieved until we have at least 70% of us vaccinated.

VRH1 I'm planning on making an informed choice.

My choice is not to die of COVID.

trisher so are you saying as it will take so long, let's not bother at all? You sound very negative

Trisher your assumption is flawed because 400,000 is what’s available initially, that is what’s limiting the numbers who can be vaccinated, and given that it’s also Christmas and the New Year, that’s manageable. When further vaccines are approved the supply won’t be an issue, and the NHS is geared up to mass vaccinate millions each week. It said on the briefing earlier that they anticipate all over 50s being vaccinated by April.

how many medical and care staff?

how many teachers?

bus drivers?

nanaK54

Alegrias2

JVT being spectacularly good on the briefing at the moment. ?

He always is, I am his number one superfan

I'm a great fan of JVT too! Love him... and more importantly, I trust him.

Make sure you read the vaccine advice sheet first, ladies (contraindications). Make an ‘informed’ choice.

Those who are celebratng might like to look at the timeline.
400,000 so it will take approx 3 weeks to vaccinate these people. If a similar time frame applies to more doses it will take approx 30 weeks to vaccinate 4 mill. Now it may speed up but it is going to take a considerable length of time to vaccinate all over 65s. There are approx 17 mill of them. As no one knows how long the immunity lasts things could be very complicated.

it seems there has been a change of mind re care homes

PamelaJ1

urmstongran
I am certainly no expert and can’t quote dates and times but I have heard quite a few eminent medical and scientific people explaining that,as COVID is a type of flu, it has been easier to develop this vaccine than it normally would be. They weren’t starting from scratch.

IT'S NOT A TYPE OF FLU, AND YES, I AM SHOUTING BECAUSE I AM FED UP WITH SAYING THIS.

You are right, it has been easier to develop the Oxford/Astra Zeneca vaccine as they were already working on anti-coronavirus (NOT FLU) vaccines for Sars, Mers and the common cold.

Alegrias2

JVT being spectacularly good on the briefing at the moment. ?

He always is, I am his number one superfan

I can't see why some people are worried about having the vaccine. They are not going to give it to health care professionals first if it isn't safe, are they.

When I am called I will be there in a flash. I need to see my grandchildren and great grandchildren before they forget me.

Bring it on. good luck to everyone.

Quite right that NHS and care home staff are the first to get immunised. After losing a dear family member and a lovely gentle neighbour to Covid, both of whom caught it in hospital after prolonged hospital stays, then being told that coronavirus is endemic in that hospital, I think hospital staff should be first in the queue. We also lost a relative to lockdown in a care home, just giving up when family couldn't visit, so care home staff being vaccinated might be the first positive step towards family visiting care homes freely again. The past 5 months have been so full of sorrow for us, and I know many of you have similar experiences, so no arguments here about who should be first, whether or not there is agreement about transmission etc.
And, perhaps we could agree to disagree, or put another point of view forward, without being 'shouty'. As my dear old Mum used to say 'if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything'. She was a love though, miss her every day.

Let’s just hope that enough of us have the vaccine to ensure the protection of those who won’t.
I’m getting the impression that there will be.