Dover is closed to outbound traffic

lemongrove

Whitewavemark2

It seems that the penny has finally dropped. We have very little push back from posters denying reality and claiming project fear.

Be nice to welcome them back into the reality fold?

Do stop claiming ‘It’s Brexit!’ whitewave, I credit you with more intelligence than that.

Actually lemon this is Brexit, but with bells on because of covid. This is what will be happening at Dover, even after the current backlog of drivers have given up/had their vaccine or whatever. The RHA have warned about this since summer 2016 and some of you, and the Tory administration have chosen to disregard the warnings. The flooded lorry parks were started well before this current scare about the new virulent strain of covid.

The EU is supposed to be having a meeting this afternoon to decide something.

lemongrove

Whitewavemark2

It seems that the penny has finally dropped. We have very little push back from posters denying reality and claiming project fear.

Be nice to welcome them back into the reality fold?

Do stop claiming ‘It’s Brexit!’ whitewave, I credit you with more intelligence than that.

Yet Another press conference today. More listening to “um er”

I assume he won’t announce no deal as it would compound panic upon panic, misery upon misery.

Sorry ignore the quote. I was going to reply, then decided it wasn’t worth the effort.

I have a friend in New South Wales who says they are completely isolated from all other Australian states because of this 2nd strain.

Aepgirl there are 83 recorded cases in the Sydney outbreak, caused allegedly by a tourist breaking quarantine. They are red hot in Australia at minimising the spread, that’s why they’ve locked the borders - there’s no reported evidence that it’s the new strain as far as I can find, so it’s a very different scenario. My sister’s in Perth, and she told me that the WA borders have been locked down since March until very recently, and now again, that’s their way of managing it (very effectively).

The reason we’re so stressed as a country is that we know perfectly well that this is just a trial run for the mess that’s going to happen in January. Supermarkets and agriculture have all warned about a shortage of fresh food. I grabbed a few extra bags of frozen carrots and broccoli for the Brexit freezer today, but on the whole the gradually stockpiling plan has us sorted for the first few months of 2021.

Aepgirl

I have a friend in New South Wales who says they are completely isolated from all other Australian states because of this 2nd strain.

But it's too late - someone who was on a flight from NSW to Queensland tested positive according to ABC news

My D is in the Northern Beaches area with her family close by.
D emailed me to say it was an American national who hadn't abided by the rules, as police traced him. He didn't bother with quarantine coming from the States.
Now it's left me worried for the family after the area had been more or less free from Covid.

Another American died of Covid on an AA flight. They don't care do they ?

Whitewavemk2
Your crystal ball predictions failed spectacularly on the 'brexit' thread so why listen to you now.
deal done deal to be signed this weekend Ring any bells?

What time is Johnson's press conference today?

5pm today Nezumi65.

I feel so sorry for all the lorry drivers. I do hope that there is a system in place for keeping them well fed and watered.

I hope we have learnt that this thing really does spread and we need those vaccinations desperately.

NB I’m also sorry for the tortoise ? but I think that the vast majority of us can live without lettuce. When I was growing up we got most of our food shipped in and there were often shortages so I think my family got used to it. We have been assured that there will be plenty of food. I believe it.

EllanVannin

5pm today Nezumi65.

Thank you Ellan

I feel so sorry for all the lorry drivers. I do hope that there is a system in place for keeping them well fed and watered.

Me too.

I can do without lettuce at Christmas but I feel sorry for farmers too as, if the goods aren't delivered, then they won't get paid.

Apparently, some bright spark has worked out that the UK has enough calories in the country so that we don't starve in the short term. However, it's almost certain that choice will be limited and we might have to forget about balanced nutrition.

Callistemon

^I feel so sorry for all the lorry drivers. I do hope that there is a system in place for keeping them well fed and watered.^

Me too.

I can do without lettuce at Christmas but I feel sorry for farmers too as, if the goods aren't delivered, then they won't get paid.

I agree with you. If I were one of those lorry drivers, I'd put my feet up the moment I finally reached home and I wouldn't want to return to the UK for a long time.

I agree with you about farmers too - on both sides of the Channel and in Ireland. All of them have relied on very quick delivery of fresh goods and they're going to have to find new markets. I only hope there aren't live animals in those trucks stuck outside Dover.

I'm sorry to say that British fish processors are going to be out of business too.

There were a lot of calls to close our borders but when France does it the same people are up in arms.

cornishpatsy

There were a lot of calls to close our borders but when France does it the same people are up in arms.

Exactly

I wonder if they'll actually roll out the ration books now (as per their supposedly 'secret' emergency plans)? Not that I'm worried, there'll always be something to eat, just less choice.

Of course, this pandemic and Brexit are but drops in the ocean compared to the looming ecological disaster and massive threat from climate change.

Would it kill Johnson to comb his bloody hair?!

He must deliberately ruffle his hair up, or does he just not have a mirror/ comb?

I think it’s part of his image.

The “loveable rogue” look to divert from lack of substance?