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mokryna Sun 20-Dec-20 21:44:15

Things are getting serious as France is because of covid is blocking lorry movements.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Dec-20 20:53:59

And this seems to confirm the lies

Professor Ian Donald
Today in his briefing
@BorisJohnson
said that there had been 500 lorries queuing in Kent but because of their preparations it is now 170. Since then Kent County Council have confirmed the number is in fact in excess of 500, not 170. There was no need to lie. It’s pathological.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Dec-20 20:56:06

More confirmation that they lied from an ITV reporter

Sources close to Port of Dover and Eurotunnel are baffled by the PM’s insistence that there were only 174 lorries parked on the M20 during his press conference. At the time Boris Johnson was speaking
@Kenthighways
told me there were 500. The number has just risen to 945.

Retiredwell Mon 21-Dec-20 21:03:33

Whitewavemark2

More confirmation that they lied from an ITV reporter

Sources close to Port of Dover and Eurotunnel are baffled by the PM’s insistence that there were only 174 lorries parked on the M20 during his press conference. At the time Boris Johnson was speaking
@Kenthighways
told me there were 500. The number has just risen to 945.

Mostly European drivers I suspect Whitewavemark2. I cannot see them or their employers wishing to take on journey work to Britain in the near future.

But of course, that is another problem this government would not wish to have disclosed or talked about. Out of sight out of mind

Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Dec-20 21:04:01

Of course!, penny dropping!

There was the instructions/advise to take a leaf out of Trumps book and get the lie in first before the truth inevitably comes out.

Apparently (difficult to believe) people will believe lies even though their sense or eyes are telling them differently and even more bizarrely still continue to believe the lie even when they have been told the truth.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Dec-20 21:07:37

I hope everyone has sent their parcels to Europe.

Envelope NEW: Royal Mail has temporarily suspended all mail services to Europe, with the exception of the Republic of Ireland

Advising not to send items to those countries

GoldenAge Mon 21-Dec-20 22:11:31

However you cut this cake, the action of the French just brings into sharp relief all the downside of Brexit - our politicians have been on TV this evening saying how successful they've been in reducing the 500 truck queue to 174 - what a disgrace - they are parading this as though it's an achievement, it isn't - what on earth were they doing allowing a situation where trucks had to queue in those numbers. Come the New Year there will be no pasta again but that I guess we can live without, whereas many of the drugs for the nation's regular prescriptions will be stuck. We should live in cordiality with our European neighbours because we never know when we need each other.

GillT57 Mon 21-Dec-20 23:13:15

We are being gaslit. Two MPs stood in front of cameras and lied. When will people wake up?

GrannyRose15 Mon 21-Dec-20 23:18:42

Whitewavemark2

Sainsbury has announced that there will be a shortage or no certain fresh veg as it is all imported from the EU.

So lettuce, broccoli, cauliflower and other veg will be very difficult.

Time to work out the alternatives.

Sprouts are grown in England.

susieq3 Tue 22-Dec-20 00:47:10

Gryneth.
Totally agree with you. I don’t think Scotland should separate from us either. United we stand divided we fall comes to mind.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Dec-20 03:08:39

More disruption

vegansrock Tue 22-Dec-20 04:52:40

Can anyone explain why Tesco “British” Carrots are “grown in Spain” ?

LauraNorder Tue 22-Dec-20 06:46:24

Growstuff, I don’t know what’s going on at the land border between Northern Ireland and Eire. I only know that lorries and cars are stuck in Holyhead because the sailings go to Dublin and Eire has closed the port to the UK with no prior notice due to the Covid variant strain. Sailings from Liverpool to Belfast were disrupted earlier in the week because of ferry breakdown so lorries were diverted to Holyhead so there was already a backlog.
If I hear anything today I’ll let you know.

NfkDumpling Tue 22-Dec-20 07:25:41

vegansrock

Can anyone explain why Tesco “British” Carrots are “grown in Spain” ?

I would love to know Vegan. Have you asked them? Or sent your photo to any newspapers? Trades Description people?

I wonder how much else has that little "grown in" label discretely in one corner. If anything is grown abroad and only packaged in the UK it certainly shouldn't have the Red Tractor symbol. Should it?

Hetty58 Tue 22-Dec-20 07:37:35

vegansrock a printer error, apparently (well according to folk on Twitter).

PamelaJ1 Tue 22-Dec-20 09:02:49

Doesn’t the government have a PR team?

All those poor lorry drivers stuck over here and they, if the news I watched this morning is true, are not being looked after very well.
Apart from the horrible time they are all having what a missed opportunity to show ourselves in a good light.

Franbern Tue 22-Dec-20 09:06:15

Channel Tunnel

Ellianne Tue 22-Dec-20 09:06:35

vegansrock

Can anyone explain why Tesco “British” Carrots are “grown in Spain” ?

I have no idea, but am guessing it is to do with the variety of the carrots?
I'm off to check my bags of vegetables now.
By the way, how long do you leave them in the plastic bags?

Ellianne Tue 22-Dec-20 09:07:12

That's funny Franbern! grin

Oldwoman70 Tue 22-Dec-20 09:17:26

A vegetable supplier has been on local radio this morning. He said importers have ample supplies as they always order extra at this time of year due to Christmas. In addition they have also stock piled extra supplies in preparation for any Brexit or virus disruption. He also said that the vegetables traditional eaten with Christmas lunch are grown in UK.

Scaremongering by the media causes people to panic buy which results in shortages thereby it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy

Hetty58 Tue 22-Dec-20 09:26:03

Very true, Oldwoman - the media have a lot to answer for.

PamelaJ1 Tue 22-Dec-20 09:55:02

oldwoman well it seems to be working on here.

Callistemon Tue 22-Dec-20 10:55:42

vegansrock

Can anyone explain why Tesco “British” Carrots are “grown in Spain” ?

Oh
British in large print, Grown in Spain in small print!

Perhaps Spanish carrots are different.

I've thrown the packaging away and the British carrots are in the freezer now - perhaps that is why my vegetable delivery last week looked past its best.

Alexa Tue 22-Dec-20 11:19:11

Have the authorities provided plenty of portable toilet cabins at intervals of , say, ten lorries apart?

And also, a hot meals service at the roadside?

They should, as they have had plenty of warning regarding lorry transport in Kent after Brexit.

prestbury Tue 22-Dec-20 11:21:32

vegansrock

Can anyone explain why Tesco “British” Carrots are “grown in Spain” ?

Probably the same as these Tesco British carrots from Chernobyl.

Sarnia Tue 22-Dec-20 11:23:47

I try to buy British grown fruit and veg when possible. The supermarkets say they have enough for Christmas, providing people don't panic buy. That will be in one ear and out the other with some folk.