Still mixing?

A house opposite me had 4 families mixing Christmas Day and now today, when we are in strict no mixing inside or out in N Ireland, family have arrived again. What is wrong with people, they just don't care at all. Its so disrespectful to the rest of us who are abiding by the rules and of course to the NHS and people who have lost loved ones to Covid.

We are not meeting up with family members this Christmas.

We went for a walk on the beach today and there was what appeared to be a dog walking group just setting off for a walk.ok it was outside but there were a lot of them.

We live in Kent on the coast, Tier 4, many of our immediate neighbours, and those on the local streets are pensioners. Our dog needs walking every day so off we went, it's unbelievable just how many have 4 or 5 cars all of a sudden. Even those who we know to only have 1!

Extended families are out walking together, which is lovely and probably safe but I think it's probably safe to say that few people kept to the rules yesterday or today. Sad but not a surprise!

After some pressure we did decide to get together 4 adults 1 child. After a while we relaxed,masks came off and voices were raised (deaf grandad). We had a nice time so hope all will be well.
Great confusion in N I as we start a weeks curfew 8 till 6am. Can I walk my dog at night? Can kids still play in the garden? Can I drive to the garage? The whole things a shambles when you see how many people cannot read and understand the rules.

Mawbe and ginny.

Common sense is exactly what has been lacking for the last 10 months. No one with common sense would have closed down the economy in the way it has been. Common sense would have told us to Keep Calm and Carry On while protecting the vulnerable as best we could and allowing them some self determination. Common sense would not have closed schools after it was known that children weren't spreading the disease. Common sense wouldn't have turned the NHS into a single disease service. Common sense wouldn't have let elderly people exist ( I won't say live) without contact with their relatives for months on end.
Common sense wouldn't have cancelled Christmas for millions. What we need is a sense of perspective.

Good grief.....this is what we’re up against.....

In answer to the OP, absolutely YES!

MayBee70

Good grief.....this is what we’re up against.....

Exactly! That's why restrictions don't work. There's no cure for stupid.

PS. Children have been spreading disease.

kircubbin2000

After some pressure we did decide to get together 4 adults 1 child. After a while we relaxed,masks came off and voices were raised (deaf grandad). We had a nice time so hope all will be well.
Great confusion in N I as we start a weeks curfew 8 till 6am. Can I walk my dog at night? Can kids still play in the garden? Can I drive to the garage? The whole things a shambles when you see how many people cannot read and understand the rules.

www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/coronavirus-covid-19-regulations-guidance-what-restrictions-mean-you

this seems to explain it quite well.

My bubble is spending the whole of the Christmas period with me. She lives alone, works from home and has not been socialising and has already been here a week without either of us going down with COVID.

No, just us, but at some point on or before the 6th January we’ll be making an illegal trip just to drop off youngest Gdc’s first birthday present, and have a very few minutes of socially distanced chat in the front garden.
Same as I did pre Christmas for the presents - NB I didn’t even go in for a wee, having strictly limited my coffee beforehand on purpose.
If anyone wants to have a go at me for that, feel free, but I’ll be going anyway.

Yes Welbeck that may explain it but I think the problem is that most people haven't read that and are taking advice from Facebook experts.

The problem is that government advice is so confusing, poorly worded and instantly contradicted (by themselves).

I think it is quite remarkable how observant of the rules most people are, given that those who make them (and constantly change them) continually give the impression that they could not be trusted to organise the proverbial p*ss *p in a brewery.

I live in an area which has just jumped from Tier 2 to Tier 4. The number of cases just a week ago was much lower than the national average, but now the increase is exponential and is doubling every two or three days. We now have more than double the number of active cases per 100,000 that Liverpool and Manchester have.

I belong to local Facebook groups and it's easy to see why. Apart from a handful of vocal "Covid deniers", there are people who have become complacent and/or don't seem to have a clue what any of the rules are. They've got used to doing their own thing as they see fit, even though it's obvious to others they're taking risks other wouldn't. In the last week of school, infection was rife in schools and is now doing the rounds of pupils' families, extended families and friendship groups. It only took one "seed" and whole families have been affected. The hospitals are at bursting point and staff within them are saying they're exhausted. The situation here is worse than it was in March/April.

Even now, there don't seem to be any warnings or announcements in the local press. People are still planning "days out" and asking for advice about getting round the rules. I really despair!

We are now tier 4, but a lot of people in this area had a family Christmas. Meanwhile hospitals have been told to clear beds for an expected increase in demand.

We stayed home alone - we have had mass testing in our area as the infection rate has been so high. Not much on tv about the age group with the most infections - I believe it’s younger people this time, probably schools etc. Anyway hope not too many people broke the rules although I suspect with the number of cars coming and going from next door they have completely ignored the fact that we are in tier 4. I can’t get annoyed anymore, we have to all do the very best we can.

Daisymae

We are now tier 4, but a lot of people in this area had a family Christmas. Meanwhile hospitals have been told to clear beds for an expected increase in demand.

The next thing people will be complaining that routine cancer and heart ops have been cancelled/postponed and using that to support the idea of ignoring lockdowns and restrictions. It really isn't rocket science that transmission must be suppressed. With a real concerted effort, it could even be almost eradicated.

GrannyRose15, wrong, wrong and wrong again. Your comments are a perfect illustration of the rarity of true 'common sense'.

'protecting the vulnerable as best we could and allowing them some self determination' - would be just like throwing them to the wolves!

We're still in the middle of a deadly pandemic, trying to minimise loss of life. Carrying on regardless is insane.

Hetty58

GrannyRose15, wrong, wrong and wrong again. Your comments are a perfect illustration of the rarity of true 'common sense'.

'protecting the vulnerable as best we could and allowing them some self determination' - would be just like throwing them to the wolves!

We're still in the middle of a deadly pandemic, trying to minimise loss of life. Carrying on regardless is insane.

So you think businesses going to the wall, potentially 3 million unemployed, millions of children having their future jeopardised, elderly people being locked up without any visitors, women having to flee domestic abuse, and thousands of suicides are a good thing do you? And people call me stupid.
Much as I want to live, I know that my life isn't worth this much.
What I am trying to emphasise is that there is another way forward: one that is kinder, more compassionate and more democratic than the one we are following. And there are many many eminent scientists who agree with me. Lets get some perspective and we might just save the country.

GrannyRose I can picture you now, you have your fingers in your ears and you are singing ‘La la la’ at the top of your voice. Meanwhile my local Health Board has 550 Covid + patients occupying beds, and no ITU capacity. You need to wake up and smell the coffee.

GrannyRose15

Hetty58

GrannyRose15, wrong, wrong and wrong again. Your comments are a perfect illustration of the rarity of true 'common sense'.

'protecting the vulnerable as best we could and allowing them some self determination' - would be just like throwing them to the wolves!

We're still in the middle of a deadly pandemic, trying to minimise loss of life. Carrying on regardless is insane.

So you think businesses going to the wall, potentially 3 million unemployed, millions of children having their future jeopardised, elderly people being locked up without any visitors, women having to flee domestic abuse, and thousands of suicides are a good thing do you? And people call me stupid.
Much as I want to live, I know that my life isn't worth this much.
What I am trying to emphasise is that there is another way forward: one that is kinder, more compassionate and more democratic than the one we are following. And there are many many eminent scientists who agree with me. Lets get some perspective and we might just save the country.

And what's this alternative? Killing people? Nearly a million of them in the UK alone?

And who are these eminent scientists? If you mean the Great Barrington lot, they've been debunked by almost every single scientists who knows what he/she is talking about.

growstuff do you have any info I can read about the Barrington lot?
I confess I've given up reading too much about it lately.

Arto1s

In answer to the OP, absolutely YES!

Then why don’t you and GrannyRose15 just take your masks off and have a cosy cuppa in a corner, but please just keep your distance from the rest of the population.
Common sense or keep calm and carry on are neither recognised or particularly efficacious medical options in the face of a virus which is sweeping the world.

Casdon. You might have noticed that I have never been personally abusive to anyone; please give me the same respect. We are all entitled to our views.