Oxford Vaccine approved

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Genty that information is outdated, if you look on the other vaccine threads on here there’s more recent updates about the trials including older people, which I’m sure the media will report on. It’s brilliant news, my hope is that the effectiveness is increased by the longer gap between the first and second doses as the ongoing trial is indicating, let’s all keep our fingers crossed on that.

Do you have a link to a reliable site with the latest data?

Fantastic news that our expert scientists, in co-operation with experts in the mass production of vaccines, in the UK and abroad, have created a vaccine in record time.

I do want to continue on a positive note, and so I will continue to hope that the promises of the politicians about the speedy delivery of the vaccine will be kept, in spite of the many abject examples of over-promising and under-delivering we have seen this year.

I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and I do hope that by the summer most of us on GN will have been vaccinated and we can start to resume something approaching a normal life.

Genty, there are those on here who do their own investigation into all aspects, who read and understand the medical and scientific articles -and some who are working in the field themselves so have a good knowledge of what is being done. Anybody with a brain is unlikely to believe everything the Government says, surely?

I do agree with you on the name calling elements though, I think we are all guilty to some extent of shouting from our positions of entrenchment at those who we feel have not done their homework adequately.

What I don’t understand is why on a post that is designed to celebrate what the vast majority of us see as good news, people feel the need to pour cold water on it. This post was not a debate if you read the title. There should be a separate doubters post where you can all share the issues you have without raining on the parade for the rest of us.

Huge Congratulations to everyone involved in the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine, such fabulous news,especially at this time when things arent looking too good generally.Roll out the vaccine as soon as possible its a huge New Year present to us all.Let 2021 be a lovely year.

Spookwriter23

I'm not having the vaccine, you don't know what side effects it has, I don't trust it, I'm not being a guinea pig, to a new vaccine, that no one knows enough about

Other people have been willing to volunteer as "guinea pigs" on your behalf already.

Will you stay locked indoors for the rest of your life? That's fair enough and it is your choice, but I would like to get out and about again.

@ BeverleyJB, just because you dont happen to agree with Mimi22 theres no need to start name calling!! This is a debate and we are all entitled to our own opinions regardless if you agree or not!
People shouldnt see the comments as negativity, just because you disagree, its someone elses view on the subject. I for one 100% agree with Mimi22, I could just as easy say the ones celebrating the vaccine are blinkered and brainwashed by listening to the government and not doing their own investigation on the vaccine!

What a ridiculous woman Mimi22 is! There is plenty of evidence as to how viruses, including Covid 19, are spread, but apparently she hasn't been able to find it.
Do you really believe that NHS staff are who are working to save lives do so in full PPE just on a whim? Many people are quite reasonably very scared and are doing their utmost not to catch the virus. Comments like those made by Mimi22 are very dangerous and are completely unhelpful.

Thank you Oxford!!
Thank you also to all the people who volunteered to take part in trials..we are indebted to you!.?

Spookwriter23

I'm not having the vaccine, you don't know what side effects it has, I don't trust it, I'm not being a guinea pig, to a new vaccine, that no one knows enough about

But you are happy to risk getting this dreadful virus and I guess you are quite happy to travel by car, bus etc which are lethal weapons

I so agree Sparkfizz I to burst into tears !

Hooray !

I was hoping that there would be a first half dose then a second vaccination within about a month, if that is what is recommended.

Which Tont Blair was that? The politician or the renowned epidemiologist?

Wonderful news. I have my sleeve rolled up already. Well done Oxford University and AstraZeneca. Can't thank you and all the volunteers enough.

I think one of the reasons for the delay was working out the most efficacious time scale between first and second dose. Interestingly wasn’t it Tony Blair who said the best thing to do was to vaccinate as many people as possible now, manufacture more vaccine and then give a second dose. Although one dose won’t give total protection it will give some but it’s so important that people still adhere to current safety measures for a long time. I’m really not confident that they will.

And further to the above - my heartfelt thanks to all the scientists and volunteer 'guinea pigs' who have worked so hard for such long hours to bring us this offer of freedom. Mere words can't convey the feeling.

Wonderful news indeed! I'm 79 so should be in the next batch of those to be vaccinated - just try and stop me! I have always disliked the idea of some alien substance being injected into me, but I hate the idea of having Covid much more. I too feel that the best of what is left in life has been 'stolen' from me and choosing to have the vaccine when it is offered seems to me to be taking back a little control over what has up to now been uncontrollable. Do I want my life back? Yes please.

Well said Luckygirl. It is fantastic news and thank you to everyone who worked towards producing this vaccine, including the volunteers. Best wishes everyone for a happy 2021.

Yes, I am not happy about the 12 week delay. Some reports give efficacy of the first dose as only 50%, and if that is the case, full lockdown will continue until the summer, destroying the economy and wrecking thousands of lives. I will have which ever vaccine is offered, but this does seem a peculiar one. It hasn't been proven to offer any immunity to the disease, or to prevent onward transmission. Its only purpose is to prevent someone, once infected, from suffering the worst effects of the disease. So my taking it is of no benefit to anyone else and will have no effect on herd immunity. I can still catch it and pass it on, without displaying any symptoms to warn me or others. So at what point do we consider the pandemic over?

Definitely in the queue for either vaccine but a bit concerned about delay of 12 weeks for second shot.

Positive news! I’m definitely in the queue.

MissC We are all "losing years" of our lives, but I would rather that than lose all of them. I am sorry you and your partner have been separated for months - others are now separated from their partners permanently. For now we must consider the needs of the whole community and accept there are things we have to give up for the time being.

Of course there have been questionable decisions and no doubt there will eventually be investigations into them.

Yes, I have to agree I have found more negatives than positives in general on GN lately. However the beauty is we just have to log off and come back another day. There's often some nice and uplifting stuff too. I seek that out.

What about the Chinese Government who tried to cover this up for so long and allowed it to escape, MissC? Does that not annoy you?

Kamiso. I am certainly not complaining, criticising nor being negative about the news. I for one would be first in the queue with my sleeve rolled up. The news is fantastic. However I am somewhat cynical about the timing of this. I also have little faith in the promises that it will be rolled out to the masses in a speedy and orderly manner. Even this morning the timing changed from 2 doses within 3 weeks to everyone gets one dose and about 3 months later they roll out the second dose.
Nothing is going to get anyway normal for months and months, maybe not even next year. I am angry that I am losing years of my life when I had other plans. That my partner and I have been separated in different countries since March (now reunited in UK for 3 weeks thank goodness) and that it is going to be difficult to travel to our newly acquired holiday home abroad. I am angry about the appalling waste of money given to government cronies for failed services and all the expensive pop up testing companies which seem to have sprung up. I am angry about the increase surveillance which will remain long after it is needed. However I have like many people tried to adhere to the rules, kept myself and others safe and most importantly maintained a healthy lifestyle. Like others I will remain resilient and sit this out.