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Chris Whitty moves to head off GPs' rebellion over vaccine doses

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Nezumi65 Fri 01-Jan-21 22:05:07

Asides from the lack of consent and pragmatics etc it is potentially a bad idea to have a virus jumping from person to person in a partially vaccinated population. Put it this way of you wanted to try and produce vaccine resistance that would be a good way to encourage it. If they’re right about 90% immunity they may be right, but they don’t actually know that yet. You can’t reliably measure efficacy until it has been administered for a a while.

I really wish they would include evolutionary biologists on JCVI.

Urmstongran Fri 01-Jan-21 22:04:33

I like Professor VT best - he’s a great communicator.

I’m just amazed that GP ‘s are to be paid a tenner (yes £10) for each vaccination they perform! The vaccine itself only cost £3,50 and when you think of all the research by the scientists to deliver it too.

Also volunteer vaccinators are to be paid £25 per day for their services. A retired nurse said she had volunteered - not expecting to be paid at all!

NotTooOld Fri 01-Jan-21 21:51:01

I agree, FarNorth. sad

FarNorth Fri 01-Jan-21 21:50:12

""The decision to ask GPs, at such short notice, to rebook patients for three months hence, will also cause huge logistical problems for almost all vaccination sites and practices.

"For example, to make contact with even just two thousand elderly or vulnerable patients will take a team of five staff at a practice about a week, and that's simply untenable.""

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/delaying-second-covid-vaccine-dose-23244630

FarNorth Fri 01-Jan-21 21:43:28

And after putting off the 2nd dose, and using up all of that type of vaccine, maybe it'll turn out that a 2nd dose isn't considered necessary after all - as we flounder our way into 2021.

It's clearly a panic reaction to try to slow the increasing infections, which might even work, but it's absolutely based on government desperation, and nothing else.

NotTooOld Fri 01-Jan-21 21:33:57

Scientists have their reputations to think of. I think we have to believe Chris Whitty who has always, in my opinion, been very cautious. I do agree that JVT is very believable. Perhaps they will get him on the next government briefing to confirm that this is a good decision.

GagaJo Fri 01-Jan-21 09:20:07

Yes, not enough information from trustworthy sources Soda. But I guess all reliable voices are silenced when it comes to the virus.

sodapop Fri 01-Jan-21 09:14:47

I wish we could hear more from Prof Van Tamm I think he is honest and sensible.

GagaJo Fri 01-Jan-21 09:09:31

I trust Chris Witty. I don't trust the government. If CW says this is the right thing to do, I believe him.

GagaJo Fri 01-Jan-21 09:08:56

The chief medical officer on Thursday night attempted to head off a growing rebellion by GPs over delaying the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine as he insisted the new strategy was the “right decision.”

In a letter to ministers, the Doctors Association said there was no evidence that delaying the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine would be effective, suggesting the move “undermined the vaccine programme as a whole.”

The Government's advisory Joint Committee on Vaccinations and Immunisation (JCVI) meanwhile insisted that an extended time period between doses would not prove detrimental.

In a lengthy statement explaining the decision, it said the short term efficacy from the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine was around 90 per cent, 20 per cent higher than that of the Oxford vaccine.

uk.yahoo.com/news/gps-rebel-over-govt-change-172255437.html