I’m being made to feel stupid for sticking to the rules, anyone else?

Excess deaths graph - 2020 highest since WW2. Source ONS.
Don't get complacent that "not many are dying".

A lot of people who don't die, nevertheless get very ill.
That's why hospitals are struggling so much just now - because those people are ill enough to need hospital care.

Grow stuff. Don't worry about how many have supposedly got this thing at the moment. Most of them aren't ill and very few will die. It is the death rate we were talking about. That is the number of people who get the virus and go on to die. Please don't confuse the two or yes you will be worried. The death rate varies depending on your age. But under eighties don't have a lot to worry about. Conflating the rates is what results in these terrifying figures.

these people are a good example as to why the pandemic will not go away anytime soon

they wont think its over rated when they get the virus . was told at urgent care that its gathering in the younger generation as they so stupid to think it wont get them . urgent care was packed with 18-25 yr old when i was there .all had covid symptoms all were told to go home and stay there ,some laughed and some swore till security guard got involved and locked them out .. then he had to stand by the doors and let the ones in that had been advised by the nhs 111 to attend urgent care ..

Dinahmo

A friend living in London emailed today and said that UCH London is now just a covid hospital.

also The London Hospital in Whitechapel is now only taking seriously ill Covid patients.
at 2.30 pm today i heard Mayor Khan saying there is now a major incident in london hosps, almost overwhelmed; police and firefighters are driving ambulances. he said one in 30 people in london have the virus, in some parts of london it is 1 in 20.
by 5pm news, sky and bbc, it was reported that in parts of london, one in 15 people have the virus.

I’m pleased to say I’m not one of them.
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Unfortunately there are too many people in this country who don't pay attention to experts.

The DfE has published the number of pupils who had tested positive in English schools before Christmas. In secondary schools, it was an average of 1 in 27, which doesn't include the pupils who were absent because they had been told to self-isolate. That means on average that one pupil in every class was infected. London and some other areas had higher rates, which is why some London boroughs wanted to close schools a week early.

I really find it difficult to understand why some people are still denying how serious this is. The virus doesn't drop out of the sky like fairy dust, but by human contact. The best thing anybody can do is avoid as much human contact as possible, even with people you think you know.

Put a sock in it varian.
I did & do listen to experts.

Just occasionally different ones to you is all. Other viewpoints are allowed.

Anyway this is about Covid not Brexit.

I am glad to hear that at long last you are taking the advise of the experts UG

Apparently in some areas of London tonight one in fifteen people have Covid.

So yes, do the right thing. Abide by the recommendations.
I am.

There's a person in our village who loves to bake so they are dropping off treats to all and sundry. Whilst it's done with the best of intentions it really needs to stop. I don't know why people can't display some common sense. A lot of umbrage would be taken if anyone would ask this person to stop.

Idiots have been trying to post photos of empty hospital corridors on social media to prove that the pandemic is just a conspiracy.

Sadly even more idiots will believe them.

A friend living in London emailed today and said that UCH London is now just a covid hospital.

"Gaslighting" similar to what Tenacious has experienced really bugs me. I don't know how many comments I've read, where people have accused others of being scared or too stupid to understand that it's not as bad as the government wants us all to think.

Isn't it frustrating.?Another DD was set to come home for 4 days at Xmas but when it all changed she didn't.We count ourselves luckier than some that when restrictions ease in the summer we did meet up a couple of times.And that we can talk,Zoom and WhatsApp as much as we like.I changed the subject with said friend for fear of losing it.It is as if all the scenes on TV from hospitals is in a parallel universe to some folk.Sadly too much of a reality for others.As a retired nurse I just go to bed each night thinking of all the health care professionals and thanking my lucky stars I'm not in their position.And worrying for the sanity if those key workers in our immediate family and their families.Rant over !

Well I just fell out with someone big style. He was continuing on doing just as he always had and refusing to consider the risk he was taking for himself and others. His justification being that he doesn't like being in his flat all the and, as he's no experience of ICU he's not scared of catching Covid. No sense at all.

I have just met a friend for a socially distanced walk as permitted.She openly told me their daughter spent 2 hours in gridlocked traffic and several hours at Kings X on that Saturday 'fleeing 'London to come back up North where we've had much tougher measures but numbers were coming down,Thanks for that.Our DD is an ICU nurse and without falling out I did try to say that the problem is hundreds of others doing the same was a bit insulting to those unable to spend Xmas with their families because they are actually working flat out in hospitals.They urged their daughter to come home.She is an adult with a nice flat shared with good friends.Am I harsh in feeling angry and upset ?

Tenacious B
Opinions are opinions and all of us entitled to them. You are annoyed your opinions are subject to criticsm
Ditch those who do not share your opinions and find those who do.

I don't very often give this government credit for anything but I do think one thing they got right was recognising how much more difficult life was for folk who live alone and allowing them to form a bubble with one other household.

Don't just stick to the rules. Go beyond the rules if you can, which is what we have done since last March.

Just because the government says you can mix with so many people in such and such a setting does not mean that you have to.

You’re right growstuff, it was just a projected figure if everybody caught it, based on the mortality rate reported so far. Hopefully it will be much less than that, although if the rate of growth of the virus doesn’t slow down soon before the benefit of the vaccinations kicks in it will still be many thousands more people unfortunately.

There are 30,451 hospitalised Covid patients.

Anyway, 1,041 deaths were announced today with 62,322 newly registered cases.

Anybody who makes somebody feel stupid for wanting to be careful should go and give their head a thorough wobble.