What does Johnson mean by "safe"?

Kate1949 - the army is providing webinars apparently.

What does Johnson mean by "safe"?

Whinge mode warning ❗️

I don't actually care what he means. I just wish people'd stop telling one to stay safe as if that isn't pretty much what one does every day, random buggerations like tripping over kerbs and breaking one's shoulder (last Feb; don't worry; it's fine) notwithstanding.

It's good to spit a moan out now and then ??

Sorry posted too soon. Not sure what assistance means.

Our daughter works in a senior school. She loves her job but is dreading going back tomorrow. She and her colleagues have gone above and beyond for the pupils and school.
DD us severely asthmatic and she and our son-in-law tested positive for Covid in November, thankfully with few symptoms. The assumption is that she's now immune but is she?
The staff have been told that they will be expected to take part in Covid testing of pupils with assistance from the Army. The 'sssistancea

I had a headteacher I know a little converse with me (at a distance!) quite openly about how little they can control in a school. They have done all they can but have had so many staff off sick and whole groups of children.

According to him, it is not safe. He says some teachers with vulnerable family have been living in caravans etc so as not to take the virus home.

This was before Christmas and the "new" version of Covid-19.

Yes, it is anecdotal but he is not going into the same room as his elderly mother even though she was supposed to be in his bubble. He is going to the door/window only.

Well I’ve been back since July teaching 3/4 year olds. Sanitising keeping everything as clean as possible. Still ok and nearing 61 years. I think it’s about the sanitising and nit mixing too many groups together I’m going back to work tomorrow fingers crossed.

It isn't just about children though, is it, the opening of the schools? The UK is at peak pandemic/2nd wave right now. The virus is raging. If schools open, the R rate will soar.

The R rate given on Gov.uk was 1.1 to 1.6, BUT dates 23rd Dec. Obviously, after the Christmas and New Year mixing it is much higher now.

I agree, it is awful for children. It is much worse for school staff. But it could also drive the country to breaking point. The NHS isn't coping now. Imagine what will happen if things get even worse. I fear for my family's lives.

Having dusted off my crystal ball I make the following predictions:

1. Boris Johnson will bow to pressure (or follow updated scientific advice) and close schools

2. Come exam time parents and teachers will call for pass standards to be lowered because children have missed so much schooling

3. Employers will not trust any qualifications obtained and school leavers will find it difficult to obtain employment

4. Everyone will blame the government for not keeping schools open and blighting their childrens future

“ So to clarify, Johnson’s going to toughen the rules, but before he does that he’s going to ask children, teachers and support staff from different households to gather in thousands of schools across the country to spread the virus”

Michael Rosen
@MichaelRosenYes
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Dear Mr Johnson
You said, "schools are safe but the problem is the household mixing that occurs in schools" . Yes, our children and teachers come from different households. We've noticed. . But if it's a problem then it's not safe.
Headteacher

I have sent in my usual complaint about Andrew Marr's usual rudeness in interrupting Boris Johnson as he answered questions; I want to listen to him, not the opinions of Andrew Marr/BBC.

Yes I think I am beginning to dislike the term covid safe as much as the phrase stay safe.

Schools are one of the top 3 locations for spread of the virus, they may not be as bad as hospitals but that doesn’t make them safe.

He means that schools are safe as long as nobody goes inside them.

I think the words "covid safe" have been bandied about far too long. Of course schools have been made 100% "safe" today when no people have entered the building for 3 weeks, but the virus comes with the occupants. It's like landlords saying they've made their pubs "covid safe" ...... until the customers arrive. Same for hotels, restaurants, trains, shops, hairdressers etc. Nowhere is "covid safe" if it receives people.

I wonder if Boris' s child was of school age he would let him attend school!
Its not just the children at risk of covid, theres teachers, dinner ladies, the head, cleaners, parents who take their children to school. Schools should have closed right from the start, Boris keeps faffing around with our lives by making a decision and changing his mind its no wonder the virus is spreading like it is!

I am just asking that you are accurate. No masks in early years no masks in classrooms except when moving around.

I ended up watching the interview on the Marr show. Some are saying Marr didnt challenge Johnson enough, I thought he gave him enough opportunities to show how clueless he is and contradict himself.
Schools are a 100% safe? I read that as they are not and in very near future he will do a U turn and be shut.
No one wants the schools to be shut but maybe if resources had been put in place to actually make them safe rather than just say it and expect ot magically to be so we wouldnt be in this mess.

Children have missed so much education and socialising that it would be dreadful if it were to continue.

Early years are not the spreaders of Covid that older years are.

Am thinking that schools are a whole lot safer than supermarkets on the whole.

No masks in early years lemongrove.

It means as safe as you could reasonably expect it to be, as extensive cleaning takes place every week, some daily, and rules are in place about hygiene and mask wearing.

I guess what he's going to do is find an 8 x 8 m2 room with poor ventilation. He's going to gather 30 of his friends and they're all going to stay in the same room without masks for five or six hours. They'll then repeat the process for at least a week.

PS. Was that a flying pig I just spotted?

This virus loves crowds and enclosed areas ! Schools should be closed there's no two ways about it. Children are spreaders of all kinds of nasties and colds and 'flu a speciality.Nits too, then they mix with others on buses/trains etc.

We're not the cleanest of countries with little or no street-cleaning or cleaning/ spraying of public transport etc.
I've never seen a grid cleaning vehicle round here for years.