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Vaccine for international travel?

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GagaJo Thu 14-Jan-21 07:32:27

I think it is a great idea. Maybe a vaccine AND a covid test (covid test required now where I am AND for the UK I think). It would require everyone to have access to the vaccine of course.

Requiring everyone who wishes to go overseas to have been vaccinated against Covid-19 is a path towards discrimination, according to the head of the World Travel and Tourism Council.

Gloria Guevara, chief executive of the industry body, criticised the approach by Australian airline Qantas, whose boss, Alan Joyce, suggested passengers would need a jab before they can board one of its international services.

“We should never require the vaccination to get a job or to travel,” she said. “I totally disagree with the approach from Qantas. If you require the vaccination before travel, that takes us to discrimination.”

The chief executive of AirAsia, Tony Fernandes, supported Guevara, and added that global testing measures are the way to unlock travel.

However, according to a survey conducted by Qantas, 87 per cent of respondents said they would be happy to take the coronavirus vaccine if it was demanded for international travel, while 85 per cent thought it should be required for travel to “at least some countries”.

A 2020 report by the Ada Lovelace Institute, an independent research body, stated that the introduction of ‘vaccine passports’ could “pose extremely high risks in terms of social cohesion, discrimination, exclusion and vulnerability.”

uk.news.yahoo.com/travel-latest-news-mandatory-vaccine-081612096.html

growstuff Fri 15-Jan-21 16:19:32

MissAdventure

I thought I read (somewhere) that hauliers will be exempt.

No idea. I did a little search before I posted, but I couldn't find confirmation. It's the LFT not the PCR test France has a problem with.

MissAdventure Fri 15-Jan-21 16:03:30

I thought I read (somewhere) that hauliers will be exempt.

growstuff Fri 15-Jan-21 15:35:31

France has now said that it won't accept the "quickie" lateral flow test as evidence of a negative Covid result, which is fair enough. as it's been shown not to be very effective.

The PCR test takes time to produce results.

Where does that leave hauliers travelling from the UK to France? Are they going to be stranded at a port while they wait for results?

Callistemon Thu 14-Jan-21 22:49:17

Gloria Guevara, chief executive of the industry body, criticised the approach by Australian airline Qantas, whose boss, Alan Joyce, suggested passengers would need a jab before they can board one of its international services.

Qantas moved its hub to Dubai a few years ago and Dubai has been strict about passengers having negative Covid certificates, as I mentioned above.
Added to which, of course, Qantas is the flag carrying Australian airline and Australia has been very strict about quarantine, border closures etc.

Maggiemaybe Thu 14-Jan-21 22:42:47

Pantglas2

You asked ‘who’s going to fly the planes...’ and I simply pointed out that it would be exactly the same people that are flying them now...... ?‍♀️

I was asking who would fly the planes if only people who had been vaccinated were allowed to get on them. But hey, who cares?

GagaJo Thu 14-Jan-21 22:18:29

One of my students had to have one. The result came through an HOUR before his flight. He had to pay to print the results off at the airport.

Callistemon Thu 14-Jan-21 22:17:59

Ps someone had borrowed his private jet.

GagaJo Thu 14-Jan-21 22:17:46

They have to be a specific type of test too. A PCR test. I don't know what that is, I think they take the test the same way but process it differently. It gives a more reliable result than the other type.

Callistemon Thu 14-Jan-21 22:16:28

petra

If you've got the money you can fly to Dubai on a private jet and get vaccinated. The flight and the vaccine are a package.

You can't board a flight to, transit at the airport or exit at Dubai without a certificate to prove you have had a negative Covid test.
A friend was not allowed on a flight to Dubai because he didn't have a certificate, just a text message to say he was Covid-free.

This was a few months ago before the vaccines.

GagaJo Thu 14-Jan-21 22:14:57

Lets hope for the passport stamps. I filled in the documentation here to be added to the list. I would prefer not to fly until I have been vaccinated BUT I really want to go home to see family.

Callistemon Thu 14-Jan-21 22:12:46

I expect to wait until I have had both vaccines before I book a flight anywhere. I hope that all other passengers will have had the vaccine too.

It seems sensible to me.

GagaJo Thu 14-Jan-21 21:47:47

I didn't know WHERE to put this, but thought it was funny and kind of fitted in here.

Pantglas2 Thu 14-Jan-21 20:28:41

You asked ‘who’s going to fly the planes...’ and I simply pointed out that it would be exactly the same people that are flying them now...... ?‍♀️

GrannyGravy13 Thu 14-Jan-21 20:15:29

The one problem with having to prove you have had the Covid-19 inoculation is at the present time it is unavailable to buy for any reason.

Whether that changes in the coming months is debatable?

Maggiemaybe Thu 14-Jan-21 20:14:17

I give up, I’ve got a quiz to take part in. grin

Maggiemaybe Thu 14-Jan-21 20:12:42

Pantglas, this thread is about the idea that people should have to prove they’ve been vaccinated before they travel abroad.

I’ve been arguing against the idea and trying to point out that it is unworkable!

Why are you disputing my every post when you seem to feel the same way?

GagaJo Thu 14-Jan-21 19:55:11

Sounds as if he would be in the chartered jet to Dubai for a vaccination category paddyanne.

paddyanne Thu 14-Jan-21 19:54:25

they dont have vaccination certificates just test results

Pantglas2 Thu 14-Jan-21 19:52:53

Maggiemaybe

If only those people who’ve been vaccinated are allowed to travel overseas, Pantglas2, very few of the very same people who’ve been doing it safely for the last 10 months would be allowed on board.

Using your argument, no supermarket would ever open!

Workers, vaccinated or not, are expected to go to work in a safe environment (and they are safe IMO) if they cannot work from home.

Maggiemaybe Thu 14-Jan-21 19:51:15

It sounds as though he and his colleagues have solid procedures in place, paddyanne. How would they be affected if they couldn’t travel without a vaccination certificate?

paddyanne Thu 14-Jan-21 19:41:29

My SIL travels abroad to work,he has to be tested every 5 days and he's tested again when he lands at his destination.He still has to isolate when he comes home .The people he works with are kept in a bubble so no outsiders in contact with them during travel or work .

Maggiemaybe Thu 14-Jan-21 19:28:00

If only those people who’ve been vaccinated are allowed to travel overseas, Pantglas2, very few of the very same people who’ve been doing it safely for the last 10 months would be allowed on board.

Pantglas2 Thu 14-Jan-21 19:19:12

Maggiemaybe

But if no one jumps the vaccination queue, how will it work? Who’s going to fly the planes and crew the ferries for the lucky oldies jetting off on holiday, or carry out vital overseas business in the long months before the under 65s are vaccinated?

The very same people who’ve been doing it safely for the last 10 months......how many flight crew have been hit with the virus?

I suspect it’s the safest form of travel, or we’d never have heard the end of it from their unions!

petra Thu 14-Jan-21 19:13:44

If you've got the money you can fly to Dubai on a private jet and get vaccinated. The flight and the vaccine are a package.

Maggiemaybe Thu 14-Jan-21 19:03:01

But if no one jumps the vaccination queue, how will it work? Who’s going to fly the planes and crew the ferries for the lucky oldies jetting off on holiday, or carry out vital overseas business in the long months before the under 65s are vaccinated?