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People who will not have the vaccine

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GagaJo Thu 14-Jan-21 21:31:57

But didn't you have covid EV?

EllanVannin Thu 14-Jan-21 21:29:47

Well I certainly wasn't protected from a near death experience this time last year after having had the 'flu jab. Which is why this one, if I'm honest, scares me witless.

GagaJo Thu 14-Jan-21 21:29:00

You could say the same thing about other passport stamps SD, but you don't hear of it happening.

BlueSky Thu 14-Jan-21 21:24:53

Yes Elegran I expect it to be like the flu jab, they tell you that if you still catch it’ll be much less serious.

Elegran Thu 14-Jan-21 21:16:20

That may well be the case, BlueSky but all that has been proved conclusively so far is that if you have had the vaccine and you do catch the virus, you will have it a lot less badly than if you have not been vaccinated. I believe they said that none of those in the trials who had had the vaccine needed to be hospitalised.

rosie1959 Thu 14-Jan-21 21:15:37

They don’t know yet if the vaccine prevents transmission Also you can still catch the virus as the vaccine is not 100% but the vaccine should lessen the effects of the virus

SueDonim Thu 14-Jan-21 21:15:12

A passport stamp would be easy to forge, though.

When we lived in W Africa we weren’t allowed into the country without a Yellow Fever vaccination. You either showed a YF certificate or they would vaccinate you there and then in the immigration queue, for a not-considerable sum of money.

BlueSky Thu 14-Jan-21 21:09:30

But if you have had the vaccine then that person cannot infect you, they can only become ill themselves. Is that right? No it shouldn’t be made compulsory but you could be prevented from travelling, working with the public etc.

GagaJo Thu 14-Jan-21 21:05:55

Doodledog, passport stamp is a GREAT idea.

I will also continue wearing a mask Woodmouse. I usually catch every bug or germ going. I haven't had one cold this year, just from mask wearing and careful hand washing.

WOODMOUSE49 Thu 14-Jan-21 21:02:51

I very much doubt consequences will be introduced.

Anyone thinking they will not have the vaccine or are worried about it should read MaddyOne's experience: Suffering COVID.

One member of her family was tested positive and it quickly went through so many other members, including her. MaddyOne is now the long road to recovery. 84,767+ people are not.

I will have the vaccine, not just to protect myself but others, especially all my family and friends. I will also carry on wearing a mask.

Doodledog Thu 14-Jan-21 21:02:36

I agree that people shouldn't be forced to have the vaccine (or any medical treatment they don't want to have), but as the pandemic is such a massive threat to all of us, I think that it is fair to insist that anyone wanting to mix in society should not be allowed to do so unless they are immunised.

Education is the best way forward, but if people still refuse, I think that they should not be allowed to go to shops, pubs, concerts, school gates and so on - basically anywhere where they could infect other people. Quite how this could be policed, however, I'm not sure, as the unvaccinated won't stand out in a crowd grin.

I also think that there should be a stamp on the passports of those who have had the vaccine, so that refuseniks can be refused entry into countries who choose not to allow potential spreaders to cross their borders (as I hope the UK would do too).

None of this would apply to people who have medical exemption in the form of an official certificate signed by a qualified and registered doctor.

GagaJo Thu 14-Jan-21 20:57:31

I agree with the no fly / travel sanction. Also for multiple person events / venues.

You have the right not to take a vaccine. But you don't have the right to willfully put others at risk because of your own choice.

Kamiso Thu 14-Jan-21 20:51:49

They can’t force it but there is talk of a certificate of proof so may mean isolating for far longer.

Galaxy Thu 14-Jan-21 20:46:36

There is absolutely nothing you can do about it, you have the right to refuse treatment. You could introduce consequences, so you cant attend concerts, fly etc if unvaccinated. I would prefer education to be honest.

Blossoming Thu 14-Jan-21 20:43:51

I will be having the vaccine as soon as I’m called but people can’t be forced to have it against their will.

Sparkling Thu 14-Jan-21 20:37:37

What do you think about those that won’t have the vaccine because it hasn’t been tested enough. The medical profession say it’s only vaccination that will save the health service and that if enough don’t have it we won’t beat COVID.