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Uh oh it’s lockdown time for us again

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nanna8 Fri 12-Feb-21 06:28:19

Victoria Australia is again in hard lockdown because of the virus spread from overseas people. I really can’t understand why they let them in knowing we haven’t even got the vaccine here yet. When they arrive apparently people from interstate can just walk through with no check. Overseas people get taken to a plague hotel where they are fairly likely to catch the virus if they haven’t got it already. We are furious because we had a holiday booked and paid for setting off on Sunday along with a group of 55 others. All of us had been really looking forward to getting away after a year of being more or less isolated.

Callistemon Fri 12-Feb-21 14:53:34

Yes, there were but they all had to leave part way through a match.
DH said, they're all in there now, they might as well have let them finish watching the match!

BlueBelle Fri 12-Feb-21 15:21:18

Well to start with keepingquiet its not a strain from the North East I don’t believe... for some strange reason they are calling it the Kent strain but to my understanding the Kent strain changed names from The South African mutation There are mutations happening all the time and I think it’s ridiculous to start calling them by place names
It’s a worldwide virus it’s not a China virus a U.K. virus or an anywhere else virus it’s a worldwide virus
What strange wording nana8 ‘plaque hospital’. horrible term ‘overseas people’ it’s those terrible ‘furreners’
NZ is the same it’s always the ‘furreners’ never them

keepingquiet Fri 12-Feb-21 16:14:52

Yes, hands up they could not have been tourists but were probably returning Australian citizens. The quarantine hotels themselves, the vetting and supervision of staff therein has been an issue though and we would do well to take heed before ours (UK) open on Monday.
I am already hearing reports (rumours) that hotel chains will decide on their own regulations regarding letting out 'guests' for fresh air and fag breaks.
I also heard there would be severe fines. Really? What is the point of fining people once they've been allowed to pass the virus on? Talk about shutting the stable door...

Spice101 Fri 12-Feb-21 23:03:44

Riverwalk There are still people coming into Australia. Victoria has on average about 1100 per week arrive from overseas and other States are also allowing a similar number of arrivals. They are not travellers as such but they have travelled to Australia from places where the virus is more active.

Among others arriving from overseas there are those associated with the tennis,
business people,
a French politician arrived in South Australia during the week with an exemption from quarantine,
Australian citizens/residents returning home - as is their right-, many after several false starts,
some "celebrities" come in. Matt Damon arrived last week Tom Hanks arrived not too long ago and there have been others,
the Indian cricket team were here and there have been various other exceptions.
So, the borders have not been closed totally as many think and are led to believe.

Callistermon I agree with you but under our lockdown laws we can only travel 5 kilometers from home, had the people at the tennis been able to stay beyond midnight they in many cases would have been in breech of those rules. Yes an exception could have been made but than you would have others wanting their activity exempted too.

It matters little what the virus is called however, our authorities and others throughout the world are using the term UK strain I'm sure this is not meant to be a slight to the people of UK but it identifies the strain as being different to the one we had been dealing with. It was not Australia who named it as such or NZ

Callistemon Fri 12-Feb-21 23:13:59

I see why they had to leave partway through now, Spice101.

nanna8 Sun 14-Feb-21 08:30:08

Of course people have come in from overseas for the tennis. It is called the UK strain here but where it comes from I wouldn’t know except that it would be Europe. There is also the South African strain but we haven’t got that yet. No Pom knocking going on just frustrated that we haven’t even got a vaccine but we are letting people carrying Covid into the country. I said plague hotel not plague hospital ( Chinese whispers syndrome) and that seems to be what that particular hotel is. Compare it with those dreadful ships, it even looks like them. Not even any balconies and shared aircon. Duh. Until today people were landing here from Europe. Mostly returning after years away because they want to. They are still coming into the rest of Australia whether you believe it or not.

BlueBelle Sun 14-Feb-21 08:57:29

Well the U.K. strain came from somewhere we didn’t grow it or did we?
nZ Auckland gone into a 3 day lockdown as they have 3 new cases

ayse Sun 14-Feb-21 09:06:08

In NZ, Auckland they are hoping to track and trace any contacts to get a hold on the virus. DD said they are pretty successful in doing this so hopefully their lockdown will be over quickly.

The same cannot be said for the UK.

Alegrias1 Sun 14-Feb-21 09:47:46

For nanna8
Having spent several happy years in Australia I know first-hand about the tendency among some Aussies to blame the Poms at any opportunity. So when the brother of one of the posters here refers to the latest cases being due to “tourists from the North East of England”, there is a real life example. The idea that it’s people with frivolous reasons for travelling that have brought the latest cases to Australia. The Pom blaming I was talking about has nothing to do with the so-called “UK Strain”.

You did indeed say “plague hotels”. But for some reason you seem to think that’s an OK phrase to use? Its not a plague, and people are not sent to these hotels because they are unclean. Referring to the quarantine hotels like this again marginalises the people who have to stay there. If you think there is a problem with the operation of these hotels then say so. Don’t refer to them in such derogatory terms.

Nobody is saying people aren't arriving in Australia or not. Obviously they are. And it seems to me that people already in Australia are more than happy to blame such people for all their troubles when in the most part the travellers are probably Aussies trying to get home. The tennis players are a distraction, but a nice convenient one.

nanna8 Sun 14-Feb-21 10:28:45

What would you call Covid then if not a plague ? Just curious. I think you are arguing for argument sake. Of course those coming into the country brought the virus in unless of course it was bats or birds. Or perhaps fish ? And ,no, I personally think all the expats should wait until the vaccination has been brought in before they come home. Unlike the UK, no one here has been vaccinated and we don’t have the vaccine available. I have absolutely no idea about and have never heard of it being called the northern English virus or whatever. As far as we have been told it is the UK variant of the virus. Is that wrong? Perhaps it is from France?

Alegrias1 Sun 14-Feb-21 10:37:04

WHO definition: Plague is an infectious disease caused by Yersinia pestis bacteria, usually found in small mammals and their fleas. The disease is transmitted between animals via their fleas and, as it is a zoonotic bacterium, it can also transmit from animals to humans.

Covid is a respiratory disease caused by a virus.

And please read my post properly if you're going to comment on it.

Callistemon Sun 14-Feb-21 11:41:28

nana8 viruses do mutate and who knows how this strain of the virus arrived in Melbourne or if it even mutated spontaneously. Has it been established yet?