Looking forward to the ‘roadmap’

annodomini

My DGD who has MS has had a vaccination. She is 29. DS1's partner (48) , also has MS and has had hers too. There must be differing interpretations of who is 'vulnerable' if your diabetic DD hasn't had a vacc yet,*rosie1959*.

Did you read the list I posted yesterday?

Diabetes on its own isn't a reason for somebody to be clinically extremely vulnerable. Diabetics are in Group 6.

Santana

Getting schools back is the best news! With secondary pupils being tested weekly this should help to control the spread, but no easy task. I am concerned for school staff but the needs of the children are paramount. On line teaching has not worked well for my grandchildren.
Opening up the rest of society will legalise what many people have been doing already in my neighborhood.
For those of you who feel nervous about moving forward, you can still remain cautious and continue as you are, unless you have to go back to work of course. Just see how things go, and venture out when you feel comfortable.

Oh yes? Who's organising the weekly testing of school pupils?

The needs of children are paramount, which is precisely why they shouldn't be forced back into an unsafe environment, where they'll be in and out of schools, as infections occur.

There needs to be a sustainable return.

Sara1954

I really hope we will be given a date for the schools to return, we have three grandchildren living with us, and are becoming quite worried about the ten year old, who is becoming withdrawn and sad it’s not helped by the fact that most of her friends are actually at school!

I think it’s a cast iron certainty that schools will open to all children from 8th - def primary and maybe a small phasing in of secondary because organising the testing poses some operational challenges ( to say the least)

X posts grow.

Calendargirl

Re schools and exams.

My GS is due to take his GCSE’s this summer. DS said they had an online Parents/Teachers evening recently. At the start of each slot, every teacher began with “Before you ask about exams, we don’t know anything yet”, which of course is what everyone wanted to know.

No idea how it will all work out.

The teachers are quite right. The details haven't been finalised.

Although I don't teach in schools, I have a private tutee whom I've been teaching at home because her school doesn't offer German (the subject I teach). I attended an online training course last week. Some details are trickling out, but there are still many unanswered questions. The exam boards themselves are still awaiting confirmation of their plans from the government and Ofqual, who are playing each other off against each other. Frankly, it's a disgrace.

Jaxjacky, we can do without pubs but we couldn’t manage without supermarkets. Harsh but true.

My daughter is in group 6 or group 4 if you take into account JCVI advice, still hasn't had a vaccine - I think there must be a lot of regional differences in roll out. I sound like a dog with a bone here, I know.

Anyway there will be some references to football
some suggestion we are all doing a group effort for the country
some lies about how care homes are protected
some reference to the war
lots of blather

No, I am not a fan

I would like someone to explain why I am seeing footballers and tennis players on TV hold each other close during or at the end of matches.
It sends out completely the wrong message to viewers - and yet still it goes on.
I agree sport is important to a lot of people’s well-being - but only if it’s safe. Otherwise exercise on your own.
Sorry for the moan, I’m having an off day.

I went off topic - schools operating safely should obviously be prioritised over sport anyway.

I am glad I am not the only one puzzler61 I don't think it being such a dull, grey February day is helping.

? for us both JaneJ.

Jaxjacky do those statistics take any account of how many people have actually been visiting pubs & supermarkets?
Especially as pubs have been closed a lot of the time.

If not, the statistics don't mean much.

My husband turned to me yesterday evening and said ‘when did we replace the term plan with roadmap’? I replied ‘when difficult things stopped being demanding and became a big ask’!

Of course I am interested in the "Road Map" but no matter what it is, it will be too slow for some, too quick for others and no-one will be satisfied.
I suspect the reason that many things the public feel could safely do, like play golf, are not as clear cut as we think. Blanket rules may feel like overkill but when you consider the arguments about what is considered a main meal or snack, it just causes more problems than it solves. Can you imagine the headlines if Golf (normally a richer person's sport) was allowed but other lowlier sports weren't? Also, it isn't the sport itself that is a problem but the way it proceeds. For example, team sports often mean that the players have to travel to compete. They tend to share lifts, changing rooms, etc, etc. Add to it the injuries that mount up from it and you have your reason why those sports are not suitable in a pandemic.
People have to eat so Supermarkets have to open. People generally do not have to go to the pub...that's why they are closed. Drinking takes away judgement so until we are in the clear, it seems sensible to be cautious.

By what I’ve witnessed over the weekend there has been more like 10 people meeting up outside, different members of families and friends. Boris giving go ahead for rule of 6 is ludicrous this will not be adhered to by many, the pictures on the news showing parks canal paths beaches all packed over the weekend they were not sticking to those rules so most definitely rule of 6 will be out the window. My local town alone had hot take away food stalls over the weekend there must have been at least 500 people with children and dogs all standing around chatting shoulder to shoulder. I think we are stupid if we believe these rules will be adhered to.

I don't believe they will be. Does that mean I'm not stupid.

I would prefer the pupils in England to return in stages rather all at once, easier to deal with any problems that arise.
The programme for social interaction seems very slow to me, given that once schools are open parents of junior school pupils will be meeting in droves anyway.
As far as those businesses that will be aske to stay closed until May are concerned, many of them simply won't survive.
If we're only allowed to meet people outside, the weather will need to improve!
Who could have thought just over a year ago that this would be a forum topic...

I too can easily do without sport, but not music. If they prioritise sport for the economy, music is just as important revenue wise. Then there are all the, often self employed, support workers, who organise transport and equipment for festivals, and the small caterers, many offering wonderful and unusual food. I REALLY hope some of the smaller festivals will be allowed to go on.

People are meeting up outside here too so I was confused at the 'you can now meet another household outside'
and the 'you can meet for a coffee' why the obsession with coffee?

I want my dgc all to see their friends, they are actually unschooled at home anyway but they still go to groups and drama and cubs, and if schools are back then these will hopefully reopen, however, its blooming daft to open them all at once seeing as they haven't gotten all teaching staff vaccinated yet!!
If all of a sudden those kids all go back with no PPE yes, they should be ok, but they will just start the cycle up again, and up once more go the numbers!
They have all this time, and they waste it as much as they waste taxpayers money.

Let’s hope it’s a cunning plan! ?

I agree Suziewoozie

I would like to hear that my 36 year son with severe Learning disabilities can go back to his day care facility and respite care , he lives at home with just me and hasnt had any carers support since last March.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Schools should NOT open until disease under control and safety measures in schools implemented. Otherwise deaths will follow. Thousands of children have covid.