For or Against Vaccine 'Passport'?

Niobe

We have always had to prove that we have been vaccinated against certain diseases to travel to some countries. Why should COVID be any different.

The issue is whether we should have to carry proof of vaccination to enter cinemas, pubs, theatres etc and although I am happy to do so it will be difficult for those unable to be vaccinated.

I think the scale is hugely different in terms of numbers affected and there isn’t the same issue regarding internal controls. Also at the moment we don’t know how long immunity will last

Grannytracey
Perhaps if you were to educate yourself into how this was achieved you might not be so cautious.

We have always had to prove that we have been vaccinated against certain diseases to travel to some countries. Why should COVID be any different.

The issue is whether we should have to carry proof of vaccination to enter cinemas, pubs, theatres etc and although I am happy to do so it will be difficult for those unable to be vaccinated.

I don’t want the injection until the side effects have been looked into,vaccines are tested for years before being rolled out but I will choose to have it if I am forced to stop leaving the uk for a holiday . Life is too short as it is & it’s getting shorter by the year

Definitely in favour.

As far as travelling abroad, it will obviously be up to the destination country and what they require. It’ll be interesting to see how this pans out. As for internal use, it’s again going to be up to the organisation concerned. My concern is fraud - a paper one is imo a non starter so what then? Digital means a smart phone and as we saw with the NHS App, that only worked on newer phones. Most ideas fail or succeed not on their merits but on the practicalities of implementation.

A international travel vaccination (which I agree with) is very different than being required to show proof anywhere you you go.

My understanding is JT is floating an international requirement, not a domestic one.

No matter what, Canada needs to sort out its vaccination issues. A ball got dropped there,

Your vaccination is already recorded on your patient record at your GP surgery. Your name, date of birth, date, time, place where vaccination was given and name of person who gave the jab.
A printout of this could be mandatory, to be carried with your passport.
This is already a kind of certificate.

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People who choose not to have the vaccine* are free to do so, but will have to accept that it’s going to prevent them from doing certain things.
*Unless there are valid medical reasons I still think they’re selfish and stupid, though.

As pps have said, proof of certain vaccinations has long been a requirement when visiting various countries.

Not sure.

But...

...when I went to work in Thailand I had to have proof that I'd been vaccinated against yellow fever, and hepatitis A & B. Typhoid and Cholera innoculations were also advised and I had them. I had another test for TB as well. Hadn't had the BCG as a teenager because I didn't need it. Didn't need it in my late thirties either.

I was working in south Thailand. There was an outbreak of cholera in Kuala Lumpur while I was in S Thailand.

I never batted an eyelid about these and was happy to take the proofs with me.

Is proof of Covid-19 vaccine essentially any different in a world that has been racked, and some people's lives/businesses wrecked?

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Even if there is no official vaccination passport, I guess a document to such effect will be required, at least for travelling. Just like visas and proof of vaccinations are required to travel to some countries.

Definitely in favour of a vaccine passport and sooner rather than later.

Yes, I agree we need to be able to manufacture our own. Apparently we were the forerunners of vaccination manufacturing 20 years ago, but with some funding from government and the facilities were tied medical universities. The conservatives in power at the time went through a period of privatization, and many facilities shut down. Subsequent governments have not pushed or facilitated manufacturing domestically, so we have gotten ourselves into this pickle.

I totally support having to prove vaccination when planning to enter another country, and for incoming travellers to have proof. But what about restaurants, sporting events and other events? I'm all for everyone to be vaccinated, but are we all ok with having to prove it wherever we go?

I can see a logistical nightmare ahead, and I hope governments are looking at solutions.

There’s no alternative. Otherwise the virus will just travel round and round the world constantly mutating. Because it doesn’t need a passport. Canada should be manufacturing their own vaccine soon so they’ll catch up.

Canada is not vaccinating enough people for this to be viable from what I understand.

It would create a massive inequity age wise, and cause a lot of resentment from the 25-50 age group who are very low on the vaccination list.