Astrazeneca vaccine suspended..... Not proven to be linked to the jab yet, but investigations are ongoing *title edited by GNHQ*

I've not read all this thread but just checked back to see the 'anti-English' comment.
It's about distant history - 13th century, as was explained. Why take offence at that?

Yes Suziewoozie, I repeat, I largely ignore posts not worthy of respect.

It seems to have strayed into the realms of truth and facts but please don’t fret, normal disorder will be resumed as soon as possible

Best comment I've seen all week.

LauraNorder

Just to continue off topic for a moment to answer my personal comment to Alegrias.
There are many posters of extreme views for whom I have never had any respect and therefore largely ignore. You, however, have most often been calm, intelligent and measured in your views and arguments. I always enjoy your posts and have learnt a few things along the way, even though mostly opposed to my own views.
I was just saddened at what appeared to be a bit of an anti English dig from a poster I have respected.

And yet you appear not to have passed judgement on the anti- Australian jibe.

Just to continue off topic for a moment to answer my personal comment to Alegrias.
There are many posters of extreme views for whom I have never had any respect and therefore largely ignore. You, however, have most often been calm, intelligent and measured in your views and arguments. I always enjoy your posts and have learnt a few things along the way, even though mostly opposed to my own views.
I was just saddened at what appeared to be a bit of an anti English dig from a poster I have respected.

Alegrias1

I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused. Are we having a sensible conversation about the situation wrt vaccines? Thought I was on the wrong thread

Anyway I got the name wrong, EMA of course, not EMO.

It seems to have strayed into the realms of truth and facts but please don’t fret, normal disorder will be resumed as soon as possible ??

Thanks suziewoosie it was the sovereignty issue which you answered in your 10.42 post that I was interested in, I know what WHO do but not their relationship with other bodies such as EMA.

I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused. Are we having a sensible conversation about the situation wrt vaccines? Thought I was on the wrong thread

Anyway I got the name wrong, EMA of course, not EMO.

suziewoozie you are much quicker than me as I was just about to post the exact same as your WHO information.

(I am off to shower and dress)

GrannyGravy13

Casdon

I understood the member states were temporarily suspending use pending the meeting today by EMA suziewoosie, not that the individual states have pronounced it is unsafe. It’s a precautionary measure.
If anybody is able to explain the relationship between them and the WHO I’d be grateful, because I thought the WHO was the senior organisation?

I was under the impression that the EMA meeting today was to evaluate all evidence/studies regarding AZ vaccine.

I have just checked online and the EMA are still saying that AZ is safe.

Just stop it ?

This might help

‘The World Health Organization (WHO) is a specialized agency of the United Nations responsible for international public health. The WHO Constitution, which establishes the agency's governing structure and principles, states its main objective as "the attainment by all peoples of the highest possible level of health". It is headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland, with six semi-autonomous regional offices and 150 field offices worldwide.

The WHO was established by constitution on 7 April 1948, which is commemorated as World Health Day. The first meeting of the World Health Assembly (WHA), the agency's governing body, took place on 24 July 1948. The WHO incorporated the assets, personnel, and duties of the League of Nations' Health Organisation and the Office International d'Hygiène Publique, including the International Classification of Diseases (ICD). Its work began in earnest in 1951 following a significant infusion of financial and technical resources.

The WHO's broad mandate includes advocating for universal healthcare, monitoring public health risks, coordinating responses to health emergencies, and promoting human health and well being. It provides technical assistance to countries, sets international health standards and guidelines, and collects data on global health issues through the World Health Survey. Its flagship publication, the World Health Report, provides expert assessments of global health topics and health statistics on all nations. The WHO also serves as a forum for summits and discussions on health issues.’

Casdon

I understood the member states were temporarily suspending use pending the meeting today by EMA suziewoosie, not that the individual states have pronounced it is unsafe. It’s a precautionary measure.
If anybody is able to explain the relationship between them and the WHO I’d be grateful, because I thought the WHO was the senior organisation?

I was under the impression that the EMA meeting today was to evaluate all evidence/studies regarding AZ vaccine.

I have just checked online and the EMA are still saying that AZ is safe.

Casdon

I understood the member states were temporarily suspending use pending the meeting today by EMA suziewoosie, not that the individual states have pronounced it is unsafe. It’s a precautionary measure.
If anybody is able to explain the relationship between them and the WHO I’d be grateful, because I thought the WHO was the senior organisation?

My understanding is that individual member states made their own decisions. As for WHO I don’t think it’s senior in any sense related to decision making of individual governments. They are all sovereign ( despite what we are told?)

nanna8 I would like to apologise for my comment to you yesterday evening.
I had had a bit of a fraught day but that is not your fault and it was no excuse for me to take it out on you!

As has been pointed out, you are just as entitled to express your views as we all are, and of course differing opinions is what Gransnet is all about isn’t it!

I understood the member states were temporarily suspending use pending the meeting today by EMA suziewoosie, not that the individual states have pronounced it is unsafe. It’s a precautionary measure.
If anybody is able to explain the relationship between them and the WHO I’d be grateful, because I thought the WHO was the senior organisation?

I’m shocked at very little these days suzie

Cheers suziewoozie , I had an early start this morning and I fear my little grey cells are underperforming.

GrannyGravy13

Not sure if you are being ironic or agreeing with me suziewoozie ?

You know very well I’m an admirer of your fair mindedness on GN. ?

Not sure if you are being ironic or agreeing with me suziewoozie ?

GrannyGravy13

I was under the impression that the EMA (European Medicines Agency) have been saying all along that the AZ vaccine is safe, it’s the individual Member States that have pronounced otherwise?

There you go again, chucking the boring spanner of truth into a much more exciting making it up as we go along thread ?

I heard on BBC radio 4 this morning that US haven’t started using their supplies of the AstraZeneca vaccine yet as approval is still weeks away. TheIndependent has reported that Mexico is wondering why they won’t let them use some in the meantime. Such a shame all the various hold ups

I was under the impression that the EMA (European Medicines Agency) have been saying all along that the AZ vaccine is safe, it’s the individual Member States that have pronounced otherwise?

Casdon

Thanks Alegrias1 I hadn’t seen that from WHO. Surely EMO would act on the WHO ruling.

I just saw the WHO thing this morning. You're right,surely the EMO will say the same?

Speaking to a relative in an EU country - he said the pause on rollout of AZ vaccine was to reassure the sceptics that it would be safe - in a way to get all the information and date super clear, then they will resume the programme. There are so many anti vaxxers anyway, the public need reassurance. There are some sectors in the UK population who are refusing the vaccine too.

Thanks Alegrias1 I hadn’t seen that from WHO. Surely EMO would act on the WHO ruling.