Astrazeneca vaccine suspended..... Not proven to be linked to the jab yet, but investigations are ongoing *title edited by GNHQ*

maddyone

Alegrias1

It was that kind of relationship. We didn't expect much back. Just making the English nervous was reward enough.

Racist remark!

I must have missed your shock at JEs post to nanna .

maddyone you've missed a whole conversation. I respectfully suggest you read the rest of the thread.

Ellianne

^I think the person pointing out that the French had always been our enemies actually started it.^
Oui c'est moi. Je suis coupable.

C’est vrai. And how typical that history got so quickly rewritten on a thread.

Alegrias1

It was that kind of relationship. We didn't expect much back. Just making the English nervous was reward enough.

Racist remark!

nanna8

Maybe it is a problem with particular batches? Just a thought. Perhaps the UK got a good lot if there were no side effects - no reported ones anyway. I didn’t like the very rude racist comment from the Jennifer cake lady but if she is that xenophobic I just feel sorry for her. We all have things in life that upset us and Australians really aren’t that bad. Some of us can even read medical reports.

I’m sure they will be checking batch numbers - I wondered about that too. Nice post btw - very gracious considering

I think the person pointing out that the French had always been our enemies actually started it.
Oui c'est moi. Je suis coupable.

Maybe it is a problem with particular batches? Just a thought. Perhaps the UK got a good lot if there were no side effects - no reported ones anyway. I didn’t like the very rude racist comment from the Jennifer cake lady but if she is that xenophobic I just feel sorry for her. We all have things in life that upset us and Australians really aren’t that bad. Some of us can even read medical reports.

Regarding the headlines stating an expected delay in “India shortage behind UK shortfall” Casdon, I was coming to point your link out you beat me to it.

Bodach

Alegrias1

If we're going to have a discussion about the efficacy of early medieval foreign policy in Europe we should probably have a new thread.

As they say in the playground: "Well; you started it..."

I think the person pointing out that the French had always been our enemies actually started it.....

The UK have not had any reports of blood clots and millions of doses have been given. Not yet proven to cause blood clots and with such few incidences I don’t think it is worth worrying about. Scaremongering again. Better to have the vaccine than risk COVID.

Alegrias1

If we're going to have a discussion about the efficacy of early medieval foreign policy in Europe we should probably have a new thread.

As they say in the playground: "Well; you started it..."

A bargain. At recent prices, shares of Pfizer have been trading at just 13.7 times the company's 2021 earnings expectations, and that's before factoring in potential coronavirus vaccine sales. ... The company's already on pace to meet this expectation with non-coronavirus revenue expected to rise 6% year over year in 2021.4 Feb 2021

AstraZeneca shares rise as University of Oxford vaccine poised for UK approval
2020-12-29 12:58:00
A new study has indicated that 2mln people a week in the UK would need to be vaccinated to avoid a third wave of the coronavirus outbreak
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I think the smearing of the Oxford Astrazeneca vaccines was all about boosting the Pfizer vaccine share price. Its all about the money.

As mentioned before there’s been a similar number of clots after vaccination with the Pfizer vaccine. Why haven’t we heard about these? Why hasn’t the Pfizer been temporarily suspended too?

The WHO have already given their assessment. We're waiting for the EMO.

www.who.int/news/item/17-03-2021-who-statement-on-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-safety-signals

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56438629
It’s a worldwide issue though, not just Europe/UK.
This conversation will be more productive once the WHO statement on safety of the Astra Zeneca vaccine is issued later today and the reaction to that is clear, at the moment it’s all speculation isn’t it?

What no one seems to mention is that the U.K. is reliant on imports of vaccines to keep up its programme.

The good news is that apparently we are still on track to keep to the roadmap out of lockdown despite the slowing down of vaccinations in April.

There has also been confirmation that second doses due next month will go ahead.

It seems that those in their 40s are the ones who may be slightly delayed in receiving their first doses.

sodapop

Macron is not suited to the position he holds. Unfortunately his thoughts and actions are self serving with no thought for the people of France. There has not been as big an outcry as there should be about this here as the anti vaccination lobby is strong.

He’s a member of a very large club stretching g back over decades across the world

Alegrias1

If we're going to have a discussion about the efficacy of early medieval foreign policy in Europe we should probably have a new thread.

Yes, might be interesting.
I was thinking later on too, 18th, 19th century.

And Johnson isnt suited to the position he holds. Its not that unusual.

If we're going to have a discussion about the efficacy of early medieval foreign policy in Europe we should probably have a new thread.

"By the way, one of the purposes of the Auld Alliance, dating from the 13th century, was to protect Scotland against English incursion. So making them nervous was a way of preventing us being invaded."
Thanks, Alegrias1. And how well did that work out over the next couple of hundred years of English incursions? I don't recall either Wallace or Bruce receiving much help from the French, apart from (something like) "You crack on, mes amis. We've got your back."

sodapop I have always admired the people of France. When they dislike the gouvernement they usually make it known loud and clear .... protests, strikes etc. Are the everyday French people protesting loudly enough about the vaccine halt in their usual manner? It often works for them to get what they want.
Why can't Macron just let individuals have the choice?

I'm a mix of English, Irish and Italian, married to a man who is of English, Irish, Welsh and Belgian heritage. We've been having some interesting conversations with our relatives in Belgium and Italy over the past few weeks.
The mixed messages coming from the various governments regarding the AZ vaccine has caused many of the general population to be scared witless as to its safety and/or efficacy.
Conspiracy theories are circulating that it's a plot to ensure the use of the Pfizer vaccine is increased thus ensuring more profit for suppliers.
I haven't a clue what's going on but it certainly looks dodgy to me.
Odd isn't it that 17 million doses of the AZ vaccine are in storage in Europe, not being used, yet the EU are complaining that we aren't sending them enough and are threatening retaliation.
Funny old world.

Macron is not suited to the position he holds. Unfortunately his thoughts and actions are self serving with no thought for the people of France. There has not been as big an outcry as there should be about this here as the anti vaccination lobby is strong.