Astrazeneca vaccine suspended..... Not proven to be linked to the jab yet, but investigations are ongoing *title edited by GNHQ*

My friend in France sent me this today. "I've caught the English vaccine."
The inference being the whole country has turned into a nation of hypochondriacs.
The worry is that not even black humour will reverse the damage now.

The Ametican obstetrician who had a clot and died after the Pfizer jab was 56, not old.

Maybe the EU should think about suspending UvdL and not the AZ vaccine.

Absolutely disgraceful behaviour and it is political.

I know someone who developed a clot after having the Pfizer vaccine. Who’s to say that she wouldn’t have developed a clot if she hadn’t had the vaccine.

I understood from a radio interview with one of the doctors involved that the blood clots that were formed were of a special type and quite rare. All those suffering were very elderly and ill.

I do not think he was talking about the usual clots formed as given above.

One thought.. The Contraceptive Pill has a serious contraindications - PE aka blood clot.

I agree with you Callistemon ?

GrannyGravy yes, of course, but I meant there is an associated risk of blood clots after surgery and with few surgical procedures taking place over the last year, cases of blood clots would be lower.

*there not their, sorry for typo!

Agree Ellianne regarding flights, mind you the inflight entertainment and even the menu’s remind you to keep moving and suggest leg exercises.

Callistemon with fewer Covid patients in hospital and on ventilators, the NHS really do need to crack-on with all the delayed procedures. Their are people dying of other ailments everyday, the cancer situation is extremely worrying.

Ellianne

Maybe fewer long haul flights account for a fair drop in the number of clots GrannyGravy?

And fewer people having surgical procedures which can cause an increase in risk in developing blood clots.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56375307

Interesting article on reaction to vaccination.

It is normal practice to suspend the use of any drug or vaccine that may be the cause of sudden death due to a thrombosis.

Pfizer needs suspending as well then

This is from the BMJ

The reports of blood clots were investigated, to probe for any yet unidentified causal links between the vaccine and blood clots, with the concluding findings from the World Health Organisation, The European Medicine Agency (EMA) and UK’s Medicine and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency saying there is no evidence for the vaccine causing blood clots (6). The EMA (7) has stated that ‘the benefits of the AstraZeneca vaccine in preventing COVID-19, with its associated risk of hospitalisation and death, outweigh the risks of side effects’, although investigation is ongoing, with an extraordinary meeting on the 18th March to conclude on the information gathered. Additionally, the MRHA (8) has advised that ‘more than 11 million doses of the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca have now been administered across the UK, and the number of blood clots reported after having the vaccine is not greater than the number that would have occurred naturally in the vaccinated population’ and importantly that ‘people should still go and get their COVID-19 vaccine when asked to do so’.

I don’t understand why European countries and the EU are demanding more vaccines because according to news reports, they have warehouses full of the stuff. Nor do I understand why threats would be made to stop exports to Britain of the AZ vaccine because the AZ development was funded by Britain. Hence the term being used in France ‘the British vaccine.’ It’s impossible to not think this is totally political. Nothing to do with Brexit, but political just the same.

It is intriguing and there will be people who jump to conclusions. I still like to believe there is another motive. Surely these countries would risk the lives of their citizens due to the fact that we've done rather well on the vaccine front.

So many experts are baffled as well. WHO and the EMA all say to continue.

Unsurprisingly, therefore, the decisions by individual nations to pause their rollouts have baffled experts.

This is quite a good article but still fails to explain fully the decision

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56360646

Maybe fewer long haul flights account for a fair drop in the number of clots GrannyGravy?

It is normal practice to suspend the use of any drug or vaccine that may be the cause of sudden death due to a thrombosis.

This is precisely what the authorities in many countries have chosen to do after some people who had received the AstraZenica vaccine died due to blood clots that may or may not turn out to have been a side-effect of the vaccination.

This decision has nothing to do with the ongoing argument between AstraZenica and the EU concerning the company's failure to supply the promised quota of vaccines.

As so many of the population have been more sedentary since the outbreak of Covid, working from home etc, gyms closed, exercise options limited to your local area, no swimming pools or exercises classes in community halls, I am surprised that clots are not on the rise?

I'm amazed at this. Maybe you can tell us why they have paused AZ but are demanding more?

That's my question to you, and others on this thread Gannygangan. So much noise here about how they are pausing the AZ rollout because they want to undermine us, but at the same time UvdL saying she wants more deliveries of this vaccine.

Could it be that they're not trying to undermine us at all and really want our product but for some unknown reason are worried about the safety of it?

I went to have my AZ vaccine today and loads of people were turning up hopefully a sign people are still taking the vaccine and wanting to. I must admit I did feel a bit worried but I think that is partly because I am barely leaving the house

I would like to think that Boris will hold a press conference before long to spell out clearly to everyone that his roadmap for getting out of lockdown is dependent upon the continued success of the vaccination programme.

He has always made it clear that certain criteria have to be met before each easing of restrictions happens, so if too many people here refuse the AZ vaccine, the timetable could be shot to pieces.

That might focus minds.

Anyway - how do you square the fact that they want more AZ vaccine from us with the belief on this thread that they don't want any more AZ from us?

I'm amazed at this. Maybe you can tell us why they have paused AZ but are demanding more?

And why hasn't Pfizer been paused when it has similar blood clotting issues?

Not that it does cause blood clots. We all know we're more likely to get a blood clot by having the virus.

I believe that this is a huge stumbling block that the EU didn't foresee. Nobody did.

But I believe that having the 27 countries muddling through together has caused a lot of the chaos. Had each country gone its own way maybe things would have been different.

Alegrias my post of Tue 15-Mar-21 17:17:10 sums up Monsieur Macron’s thinking.

The BBC didn't report that the EU are trying to undermine our vaccine rollout because they want to get back at us. They reported that the EU are considering not exporting vaccines made in their own countries to third party countries that are not fulfilling their obligations to the EU.

The EU have lost the plot about vaccines; if they prevent export to any countries there is no justification for it in my mind. But to think that any of the above is about getting back at us about Brexit is, however, laughable. And just a wee bit paranoid.

Anyway - how do you square the fact that they want more AZ vaccine from us with the belief on this thread that they don't want any more AZ from us?

maddyone not just the BBC most news stations are reporting the same story............. Ursula Van der Leyen is having an almighty strop, worthy of a terrible twos tantrum

The EU vaccination roll out/take-up is appallingly low, so they intend to punish (there is no other valid description) the UK as our programme has been exemplary.

Some info.