Holidays abroad illegal from Monday 23rd March

it looks nice I was hoping it was more like

greekreporter.com/2020/07/02/inside-the-villa-of-pm-boris-johnsons-father-in-greece/

Yes, it's called Villa Irene. I'm not very good at links but will try.

Galaxy

Why on earth would anyone expect ordinary people to follow guidelines when the government is behaving in such a way. Its beyond words.

I know, it has gone beyond a joke. How can anyone defend them whilst moaning about their next door neighbour who chatted to his daughter on the drive. I try not to post about politics but this is getting idiotic

Do you have a link Lillie?

may not May.

Maggiemaybe there is a very big ‘May’ in the statement you refer to, similarly the ‘no earlier than’ and the dependency on probably not just our stats, but those abroad too

Why on earth would anyone expect ordinary people to follow guidelines when the government is behaving in such a way. Its beyond words.

JaneJudge

Is there evidence to suggest Stanley Johnson rents out his holiday home? I was just wondering

Yes, JudgeJane. Over £2,000 per week if youre interested!

Is there evidence to suggest Stanley Johnson rents out his holiday home? I was just wondering

I hugged my daughter,4yr old grandson and 3week old baby in feb 2020 at Dubai airport...baby is running around now , it hurts so much that I haven't been able to see them....my two granddaughters in Australia often cry on the phone because they are missing us....so it angers me that overseas home owners can visit their properties...but grandparents cant visit overseas grandchildren.
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I would be happy to be allowed to travel to West Wales to see my in laws.My FIL is 93 and his health is failing.Every week he asks my husband when are you coming to see me.Hopefully soon we will be able to go down to see them.
My heart goes out to Ashcombe and others with close family members abroad.

The trouble with letting people travel to see family abroad is that it would soon reach a point similar to the inequities surrounding bereavement and compassionate leave. There are those for whom close friends, partners, third cousins are closer than their parents or children, and others who will use concessions to their advantage, despite never having seen their granny for decades.

That is harsh, I know; and I know that there are people who are desperate to see their loved ones, but I'm afraid that it is true, and also that the virus doesn't care about how much any of us wants to see someone - it will still kill many who are infected by it.

Oh, and as for the SJ loophole - that is bare-faced cheeck, and encapsulates this government's attitude to 'their own kind's' superiority over the rest of us. I hope this is raised in PMQs, as I would love to see Johnson's explanation. Actually, I would like to hear Professor Van Tam or Chris Whitty's opinion on the matter even more.

We have a second home in France, which we would like to visit. We miss it very much, but like most people in our situation we have no intention of going there until it is permitted and we have been told it is safe to do so.

So some people think it’s a good idea to leave a country with a low infection rate to holiday in a country with a high infection rate and then come back. Or am I misinterpreting this?

Yes, i knew the exemption would be to allow Boris, his family, and all the other 'posh lot' to do as they want in a pandemic..while we all toe the line, and they happily spread covid still...What Boris said (it showed on news) about this EU third wave coming here as well,- yes Boris it will, because you WONT CLOSE THE BL**DY BORDERS& AIRPOTS FULLY??

Who exactly are the 2nd home owners 'renting' them to if no one can go?(oh, it'll be the their fellow EU dwellers will it?) ??

www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52530518

I may be wrong (I often am!), but the BBC website seems to be saying that
international leisure travel may resume no earlier than 17 May, not 30 June? Have I misunderstood?

It is wrong to judge all those with second homes as automatically being wealthy.
Many people would have made sacrifices to be able to afford, say, a little flat in a holiday destination both here and abroad.

Although in some respects it grieves me to say it, I think European holidays this year should not go ahead.

Scientists have repeatedly pointed out that the longer the virus is around, the more there is the potential for it to mutate with the danger that our vaccines won’t protect us.

We are all well aware of the complete shambles surrounding the EU’s vaccine rollout, and as we have seen, the virus is taking advantage of the many hundreds of millions of unvaccinated people in Europe.

It is the exemption being so blatant that has annoyed me the most. Know your place serfs and plebs

Peasblossom I think we are all coming to the end of our tethers it's gone on so long. We follow the guidelines while others think they are above them.?

MaizieD

M0nica

Maizie I understand yournpoint about Stanley Johnson, my point was really based on whether the virus could discriminate between reasons someone went abroad, infect them if they were just going for a holiday and not if it was to prepare a property to let, although who is going to be renting them when no foreign travel is permitted is not clear.

I quite understand MOnica.

I'm just so that this exemption is so blatant.

It’s as if the voter has become cowed.

M0nica

Maizie I understand yournpoint about Stanley Johnson, my point was really based on whether the virus could discriminate between reasons someone went abroad, infect them if they were just going for a holiday and not if it was to prepare a property to let, although who is going to be renting them when no foreign travel is permitted is not clear.

I quite understand MOnica.

I'm just so that this exemption is so blatant.

Whoops ... WON freedoms

As it happens I have close family in NZ and I would love to go to see them BUT just now No travel abroad for anyone except as I said before medical emergency or treatment. Why should anyone be exempt?

I’m beginning to think I shall be soon demonstrating against this creeping attack on our hard one freedoms. I thought I’d finished doing that years ago but maybe not, after all.