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Holidays abroad illegal from Monday 23rd March

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GagaJo Tue 23-Mar-21 07:41:12

Boris Johnson revealed that foreign holidays would be illegal from Monday until at least 30 June, with police able to issue fines of up to £5,000.

www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-news-live-vaccine-covid-b1820388.html?page=4

GagaJo Tue 23-Mar-21 09:40:36

It is rare that lemongrove and I agree on something. But I do agree with her. The virus doesn't travel. People make it travel. No travel, much less virus.

OTHER COUNTRIES haven't been vaccinated GG13. Neither have most Brits. That is the point. You may be ok if vaccinated. You can get covid and recover. But the person you give it to when you return may not.

I am in your position so I do know how you feel. Doesn't make it OK to have exemptions.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 23-Mar-21 09:35:12

I am sure that those of us with families abroad are not looking for special treatment .

We have been under house arrest and living under restrictions for one year over half the population have been vaccinated, the virus is not going to miraculously disappear we have to learn to live with it and make our own risk assessments.

JaneJudge Tue 23-Mar-21 09:34:41

I don't mind the banning of travel for holidays abroad by the way. I mind that it is always two tier

JaneJudge Tue 23-Mar-21 09:33:33

What a bunch of idiots we are putting up with this crap. You can't have anyone in your house unless it's a housekeeper/cleaner/nanny/tutor, you can't go away unless it's to pretend to care for your second home, you can't travel back from abroad unless you are a high value earner. I am sure there is more. But please don't visit your elderly Mother in frail health or sit with a dying relative, we can't have that! angry

lemongrove Tue 23-Mar-21 09:33:09

The title of the OP is wrong.It will be Monday 29th March but this is only if MP’s vote for it ( on Thursday I think.)
So it’s jumping the gun at the moment.
If it does come into law, it could well be a really good move as the last thing we need are holiday makers bringing more Covid cases here.
The new laws to be voted on include allowing protests to go ahead ( to be exempt.)

GagaJo Tue 23-Mar-21 09:30:54

Exactly Doodledog. Couldn't agree more. It WAS very hard at Christmas, when I realised with only 2 days notice that I couldn't go home to the UK to see family, but despite being upset, I understood.

sodapop Tue 23-Mar-21 09:22:55

Crossed posts Doodledog I agree completely.

sodapop Tue 23-Mar-21 09:22:04

Sadly GrannyGravy there are always going to be people who we think should be exempted, where does it end. I live in France so haven't seen my family since 2019 along with many many more people. I don't expect to be exempted yet.

Doodledog Tue 23-Mar-21 09:21:57

It doesn't matter what your 'reasons' are for wanting to travel. As my mother would say, 'wanting isn't needing', and if it is dangerous to go abroad, then nobody should be able to travel.

As soon as we start prioritising one group's wants over another, it all becomes untenable, as one person's wants are as important as another's.

In actual need, such as travel for urgent medical treatment, maybe there could be exemptions, but only rarely, and on a case by case basis.

GagaJo Tue 23-Mar-21 09:21:37

The vaccine could be our way out GG13, but if the whole world doesn't get it, it doesn't heap travellers.

I am missing my family back in the UK too. But living is more important. Plus, I don't want to infect them either.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 23-Mar-21 09:17:43

Thank you Dragonfly we are really missing our overseas family.

dragonfly46 Tue 23-Mar-21 09:12:06

I think they should allow people to travel who have family abroad. They are more important than second homes.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 23-Mar-21 09:09:13

sodapop

That is a ridiculous exemption. What about all the people who have families abroad who they haven't seen since 2019. I'm sure others will come up with more reasons, there should be no exemptions.
There seems to be an obsession with foreign holidays, I expect its because they have not been possible for some time. I think there are far more important things on the priority list than holidays or should be.

What about all the dream holidays organised by Children’s Wish and other charities, these holidays can make all the difference to the young folks/children and their siblings and parents. Fulfilling a last wish to see something, go somewhere.

We have been indoctrinated, we were told have the vaccine, it will be the way out of lockdown and restrictions.

I voted Conservative but I am deeply concerned about the erosion of our freedom.

MaizieD Tue 23-Mar-21 09:07:14

Riverwalk

^Quite touching really, the way he looks after his old dad..^

And put his brother in the House of Lords!

Such a family-minded man is our PM

In other circumstances, like in a banana republic, it would be called nepotism, wouldn't it? hmm

sodapop Tue 23-Mar-21 08:58:10

That is a ridiculous exemption. What about all the people who have families abroad who they haven't seen since 2019. I'm sure others will come up with more reasons, there should be no exemptions.
There seems to be an obsession with foreign holidays, I expect its because they have not been possible for some time. I think there are far more important things on the priority list than holidays or should be.

Riverwalk Tue 23-Mar-21 08:56:28

Quite touching really, the way he looks after his old dad..

And put his brother in the House of Lords!

Such a family-minded man is our PM

Lucca Tue 23-Mar-21 08:54:36

Oops crossed posts Maizie

Lucca Tue 23-Mar-21 08:54:06

Riverwalk

Preparing second homes for rental seems a rather strange exemption.

It’s the Stanley Johnson loophole!

MaizieD Tue 23-Mar-21 08:53:58

Riverwalk

Preparing second homes for rental seems a rather strange exemption.

Why do you think the Guardian is calling it the 'Stanley Johnson Exemption'? That was his excuse for nipping over to Greece last summer. There was such an outburst of indignation that his son has clearly decided to forestall any objections this year.

Quite touching really, the way he looks after his old dad..

GagaJo Tue 23-Mar-21 08:49:23

As azse said, for the wealthy again. So in theory I can't come home, because I don't have a 2nd home.

Lillie Tue 23-Mar-21 08:48:13

It sure does Riverwalk. If you let a home abroad you would need someone there to look after it, to clean it and to do maintenance and gardening. So why can't the same people get the property readY?

Riverwalk Tue 23-Mar-21 08:44:11

Preparing second homes for rental seems a rather strange exemption.

Lillie Tue 23-Mar-21 08:39:13

So what stops people just popping over to their second home saying they are getting it ready for the season? Do they have to prove bookings through a reputable agency?

ayse Tue 23-Mar-21 08:37:03

Looking after the better off again! It should be a blanket ban on all travel abroad. The same should apply to entry into the UK with no exceptions unless quarantine is for all. Lorry drivers travelling to the UK should be able to stay in port then take other goods back across the channel, thus reducing risk to everyone.

The only exemptions should be for medical or care purposes NOT for property. It makes me angry when there is one law for the wealthy and another for everyone else.

I’m fed up of doing what I should be doing whilst others are exempt! We’ve been in various forms of lockdown for 9 months out of the last 12.

Urmstongran Tue 23-Mar-21 08:33:14

Looks like we’re not off to Ibiza then with my stepfather. At 88y and literally went nowhere apart from the shops last year he was so looking forward to a holiday - as he said ‘at my time of life ...’