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Anyone having a reaction to Covid Vaccination now we are several months from first jab?

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Lyndylou Mon 24-May-21 15:57:59

My son's girlfriend is due to have her first vaccination for Covid very shortly. She has already rejected one appointment due her fears about long term effects. She is a professional working for the NHS but she has read lots of medical papers about the vaccine and is still unhappy.

Now that a lot of us have had several months since the first jab, I just wondered if there is anyone who had the jab early this year and is now experiencing problems, symptoms etc that they put down to the vaccination.

M0nica Tue 25-May-21 11:46:22

Far more danger from long COVID than long term effects of the jab.

I have several times asked on GN and elsewhere whether there is any evidence of long-term effects/damage from any vaccine that do not maifest themselves until months or years after receiving it. Answer comes there none, it as if I had never asked the question.

This is not a complaint, it is a statement of what happens and I find it reassuring because if there is any evidence of these much delayed long-term effects, nobody here or elsewhere has come across it.

Alegrias1 Tue 25-May-21 11:25:04

I might not be seen as so positive with my comments Lyndylou.

You said she is an intelligent girl, a professional working for the NHS who has read a lot of medical papers. That's why I'm a bit perplexed that she is worried about long term effects. Historically, I can't think of any vaccines that have had long term effects; there was the polio one in 1955, but the effects came on quite quickly. There was something after the flu vaccination early in the 20th century I think, but that came on quickly too. Maybe other posters will have examples.

But the concern about long term effects has no basis in fact, and an understanding of risk levels must surely make her feel better about the vaccine? If she understands how tiny the risk of blood clots is, she must understand the even tinier risk of long term side effects, surely?

I'd be quite interested in the papers she's read, if it were possible to get links to them.

Lyndylou Tue 25-May-21 10:53:19

Thanks Peasblossom I didn't mean to over react smile

Lyndylou Tue 25-May-21 10:51:45

Grannynannywanny yes that is exactly how I feel about it but as I say, I don't have her medical background so I am taking her concerns seriously. I have been able to work from home and keep safe and so has she until she went on maternity leave, so I think in a way, we have been shielded from the real effects of Covid. What I do remember is the serious fear last year, that people could be well one minute and dead within a few days. I was really glad to get my vaccination and I want to encourage her to have hers. Your comments about your daughter were very helpful thank you, and I am really grateful to all the positve comments. It has been extremely useful.

Peasblossom Tue 25-May-21 10:44:36

No, it wasn’t honestly. It was just that the comment was on the previous page so I wanted to refer back to it. I should have done that quote thing.?

Lyndylou Tue 25-May-21 10:41:58

If you are really interested Peasblossom I will arrange some references for you. I just don't think putting commas around my words signifies a real interest, more a desire to be rude.

Grannynannywanny Tue 25-May-21 10:36:15

Lyndylou I’ve had both my AZ in Feb and April with minimal after effects for 24hrs. Likewise everyone in my circle of friends and family.

With regard to concerns about auto immune conditions, my daughter, an NHS nurse, has rheumatoid arthritis and is on several drugs including self administered weekly methotrexate injections.

She contracted covid last year and was very unwell for a few weeks. She has continued to work throughout the pandemic apart from the 4 weeks she was ill. She didn’t hesitate to have her vaccinations in Nov and Jan and has had zero after effects.

After seeing the devastating effects of covid in hospital wards and experiencing it to a lesser degree herself she didn’t have a second’s hesitation about having her vaccinations.

Personally, I’d have more concerns about the possibility of long covid. I know of a nurse in her 40s who is still struggling with multiple significant health issues 9 months on and is still unable to work.

Peasblossom Tue 25-May-21 10:09:14

About the same as long term effects as any other Corona virus vaccine. You know, flu vaccines. They’ve been around for years and years.

This isn’t something new. Just modified from what we already had.

I’d be interested in knowing what these “in depth scientific papers” are?

Lyndylou Tue 25-May-21 10:04:41

that is really not answerable yet.

Lyndylou Tue 25-May-21 10:03:21

Thanks B9exchange I have passed that name onto her. It is not the blood clot issue that is concerning her, she knows that risk is small and she is on maternity leave so she is not in contact with patients at present but of course that will change soon. I think it is more about a fear of the unknown long term effects of the vaccine on her system and of course that is really answerable yet.

Marmight Tue 25-May-21 09:27:01

I had the AZ vaccination. No side effects with either, in fact I didn’t even feel the needle go in!
I have a young friend in the US who had the Moderna and suffered every after effect imaginable and was really unwell for over a week.

BlueSky Tue 25-May-21 09:26:07

Agree we need to talk about it, obviously any symptom can be put down to the jab, as we know even people who had placebos reported side effects. We are learning all the time.

Shropshirelass Tue 25-May-21 09:18:05

We both had the Pfizer jab and had no reactions at all apart from a little tenderness at the top of our arm. Absolutely fine otherwise. I have friends who have had Pfizer jab or Astra Zeneca, only one of them had a reaction. My daughter hasn’t had hers yet (this worries me!) because she couldn’t afford to have a reaction, she has only just returned to work! I am hoping she has it soon as she does work in the community.

B9exchange Tue 25-May-21 09:12:35

I would tell her to contact Professor Tim Spector of the Zoe app which is collecting data on 4 million of us. All recording daily symptoms pre and post vaccinations, batch numbers etc. Apart from the extremely small number with blood clots, now recovered, and even fewer fatalities, no long term effects recorded. I imagine it is the clots your son's girlfriend is worried about, but if she is in contact with patients her risk of catching it or giving it to them is hundreds times greater. You can always find badly done research papers as well as good ones to back up your worries! ?

Life is a risk, the cable car tragedy recently was so sad for the families, but it wouldn't stop me going in a cable car ever again.

Franbern Tue 25-May-21 09:10:12

Jsugt tiredness after first (astra Veneca) jab. Nothing at all, not even mark on my arm after second.
Most of my AC have autoimmune problems. All have had their jabs, no problems. My SiL who has both Type 1 diabetes and serious pysoratic arthritus and is on loads of medication including a monthly day trip for an infusion in hospital, had had both of his jabs. Yes, his wife had to put up with his man-type moans for a two or three days each time, but that has been all.
Think some people somehow want to convince themselves that this vaccine is not the wonderful thing it is.

M0nica Tue 25-May-21 08:55:00

Between my two jabs, I went down wih a winter bug and had more migraine than usual, I associate neither with my jab.

Winter bugs occur this time of year and my migraines are irregular and do seem to have increased recently, but since DD was briefly at death's door last summer and DH had a heart attack in November, followed by bypass surgery and complications. if the increase in my migraines have any cause I think family events are far more likely to be the cause.

JaneJudge Tue 25-May-21 08:51:37

No, I had flu like symptoms after the first on the following day. Had 2nd yesterday and my arm hurts and I feel hot but that is about it. What I find surprising is I am a very migrainy person and didn't have the associated headache that everyone else seems to have!

Witzend Tue 25-May-21 08:49:21

No. Shivers and shakes the same night after the first jab (AZ), nothing from the 2nd, nothing at all since.
Dh had no reaction to either.

Lyndylou Tue 25-May-21 08:46:46

Absolutely grannysyb but the only way to find out if people are having long term problems that either were not there before the vaccination; or have got worse, is to ask them. Then if a clear pattern emerges it might warrant further investigation. My tiny random survey on gransnet is not intended to be science at all, just a question for people who are likely to have been having their first jab at the start of this year. I certainly can not see a pattern emerging in the responses so far but I am interested that Daisymae knows people who have existing medical issues that are having problems. That is exactly the issue that is concerning my son's girlfriend, that the vaccination may make an existing auto-immune condition worse and her GP is very much on the fence as to whether she should have the jab or not.

lavenderzen Tue 25-May-21 08:44:54

timetogo I am sorry you have been poorly since your vaccination, I hope you soon feel well again. I am sure you know your own body. Take care.

Kalu Tue 25-May-21 08:35:40

Does your GP agree, being ill 5 weeks later, are symptomatic of having had your vaccination timetogo ?

M0nica Tue 25-May-21 08:28:43

Had Pfizer vaccine in January and last week. I had absolutely no side effects after first one, not even a sore arm. I was over any side efffects before I left the clinic. Second time my arm was a bit sore for a couple of days, but I am fine now.

grannysyb Tue 25-May-21 07:59:28

Agree with janeainsworth, just because you had the vaccination months ago, and then develop symptoms , does not mean that the two are related, drawing a straight line between the two is poor science.

Kalu Tue 25-May-21 07:59:07

Feb/May, DH and I both had Pfizer, no side effects at all and both thankful to have had ours.

I only know of one friend who was unwell for four days after her first jab. It didn’t put her off having her second one and no side effects on that occasion.

Medics, family and friends have all been vaccinated and again, grateful.

silverlining48 Tue 25-May-21 07:50:02

Jan/March AZ no Problem at all for us or our AC. Feel very grateful.