They kept that quiet

I got it from the Government notifications service, honestly.

Not doubting you, Peasblossom. It looks as though there's been something sent out by mistake, or it's one of the government's famous U turns.

I was rather when I saw it, seeing that we'd just been having a bit of a 'discussion' about it

Just seen this and can't think where to put it so

The amount the government has to spend on state pensions will fall by £1.5bn by 2022, partly because of over-65s dying of Covid, forecasts suggest.

The government will also receive an extra £0.9bn from inheritance tax, partly due to Covid-related deaths.

The figures have been published by the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) - the government's fiscal watchdog.

PippaZ

Click up or realisation that they can't get away with it?

Click up!!! Sorry my Kindle took over. I am back on my laptop now and will be making my own mistakes

I'm in one of these areas and we've been told nothing. But its also common sense, if you don't travel around, you don't spread it around. The thing is, my local council doesn't have that much common sense that I'm aware of.

We've got mobile testing centres set up in the middle of towns that you have to travel to get to, why aren't they testing where people live? Its a very poor area so most people don't drive and rely on public transport.

We are also a tourist spot, and if we have a heatwave, as predicted, for the Bank Holiday, the place will be heaving.

Lin52

EllanVannin

Do people have to have it spelled out now ?

Spoon feeding is what many people want, areas of high Covid need to have Councils with some gumption and leadership. One councillor , who had obviously thought about it, but did nothing, was threatening riots if further local lockdown implemented www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/bolton-indian-variant-danger-unrest-council-boss-b935973.html they need to be talking to their constituents and explaining why further lockdowns needed. Just think if these selfish people hadn’t travelled, or at least stuck to quarantine, less infection.

They do have councils with gumption and leadership. What we need is a government with gumption and leadership qualities.

What councils need is clarity.

It was [email protected]

I don’t know whether that will take you to the old site or the new one.

I got it from the Government notifications service, honestly.

Like I said I signed up to it at the start(ish) of the Pandemic and have had daily emails ever since.

Every directive, advice, legislation, statistics, daily updates, whatever is there for Councils, businesses, health settings, ordinary people like me, who want to know what is actually put out there, rather than what people tell you has been put out there!

You can get the facts too.

Ha. As I’ve been typing this they’ve created a whole new information site. But what I’ve been saying is true. And the new one with the latest information can be delivered to your inbox if you want. Then you won’t have to rely on newspaper reports either.

I’ll see if I can find anything about the Leicestershire information that growstuffs reported.

EllanVannin

Do people have to have it spelled out now ?

Spoon feeding is what many people want, areas of high Covid need to have Councils with some gumption and leadership. One councillor , who had obviously thought about it, but did nothing, was threatening riots if further local lockdown implemented www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/bolton-indian-variant-danger-unrest-council-boss-b935973.html they need to be talking to their constituents and explaining why further lockdowns needed. Just think if these selfish people hadn’t travelled, or at least stuck to quarantine, less infection.

Click up or realisation that they can't get away with it?

Peasblossom and her family members got their information from someone/somewhere.

My gast is truly flabbered.

What the ....!!

Well!

Whooooaaa, everyone.

I've just copied this from the BBC web site's Live Updates page:

New Covid guidance 'a mistake by government'
Leicester’s Director of Public Health says government officials have confirmed that new advice published on its website around social distancing and travel was "a mistake".

Professor Ivan Browne says people should continue to follow existing national guidelines as before.

He says in a statement: “We had an urgent meeting with government reps and other affected local authorities today...these officials confirmed there are no restrictions on travel in or out of each of our areas and it was a mistake to suggest there was.

“There are no local lockdowns and there is no justification for Leicester to be treated differently to the rest of the country," he says.

He says he was not contacted by anyone from the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) or Public Health England about the advice, "to explain the rationale behind it or give any other information".

It's a tad unclear as to who is saying what, but I'm reading this as being a Westminster cock up (as I most certainly would, GG13 )

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-57237893

Communication is basic good management. I find it difficult to believe it's incompetence rather than a deliberate strategy not to communicate.

It was the same with schools. I know somebody who is deputy head at a big sixth form college. Her college did not know what was going on before the last shutdown of schools until the evening before they were shut. That was after reassuring students that they would be remaining open for the moment, which made them look like complete idiots.

which put a positive slant in their favour

which put a positive slant in their favour 're the vaccines.

They are all Labour councils too aren't they? It may be a coincidence but I noticed earlier when I was watching politics today

So the government decided to send inform the areas, with high levels of the First Found In India Variant, of the changes in policy via a general public vehicle on a Friday, when most people in the council would be elsewhere for two days but issued a press release, which put a positive slant in their favour, on a Saturday evening primed for the Sunday papers, with enough ministers around to big it up on the Sunday tv shows.

I'm not sure why anyone should be surprised. They have been using these sleights of hand ever since the first criticism of their slowness to act was countered by a 2,000 word blog tweeted out by Cabinet Ministers. Just wait for a while and they will be back with "we were just following the science" and "‘we have taken the right steps at the right time." The questions are: What science and have you because, of course, the are actually, and have been all the way through, politicians decisions for political reasons.

Sorry, but I do not agree that local councils should have to rely on the communications sent out to local businesses and the public.

At the very least, they should have been informed a few hours in advance, so that they could get their own communications up to speed.

It really doesn't take much to pick up a phone (remember them?) and make sure that a message gets through to the person or people in charge.

Someone most probably tried to phone the 0300 number and couldn't get the automated system to understand them, 'who do you want to speak to?'
<clearly> MR JOHN SMITH
<automated system 'you want to speak to Claire Smart, is that correct?'
<clearly> NO, IWANT TO SPEAK TO JOHN SMITH
<automated system> putting you through to Ronald Mcdonald <ring ring>

But you can’t say it wasn’t issued, because there it is?

Peasblossom

Actually, because it was issued on Friday night, I expect nobody read it till Monday morning.

Well that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

It is a bit more complicated then just boroughs though isn't it? Wixams and Elstow for example border on a neighbouring borough and people may work/shop/go to school in either and afaik pubs/cafes etc are still open. That's why I asked if the garden centre they are testing on is open?

They had to shut a vaccination centre here to walk ins as so many people turned up this morning.

Actually, because it was issued on Friday night, I expect nobody read it till Monday morning.

It’s the official list of all directives that are issued on a daily basis. They made them all public in the name of transparency. But it is the official communication not a different one.