Reluctance of the young to be vaccinated?

Well said Alegrias Thank you.

Sorry to hear about your son Anniecupcake18.

Your post is insulting, wrong and dangerous naughtynanny. Not one piece of truth in the whole thing. Its not worth trying to correct every point you get wrong, it would take too long.

The only person who should be ashamed is you, posting such a thing in an environment where people like Anniecupcake18 are trying to live with the most awful situations.

I was so sorry to read your post Anniecupcake18, it must be so hard for you.

My son died from a cerebral blood clot and thrombocytopenia in January caused by the AZ vaccine, he was only 32. I can understand vaccine hesitancy in the young.

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My DD, who is a scientist, keeps trying to explain to anti-vaxxers that there's no mystery about the quick development of the vaccines. For a start, research usually has to wait for approval and funding before it can proceed, and that can take months or even years. Also, most scientists take great care to guard their research until they can publish, because other scientists can and do present unpublished research as their own. However, recognising the gravity of the pandemic, they have freely shared a lot of information. My DD says that it's very unusual and will have undoubtedly speeded things up.

All medicines, including vaccines, carry risks. You have to weigh them up against the risks of the disease. My other DD knew someone who died as a blood clot after the Astra Zeneca vaccine. They were friends when their kids were at a mum and toddlers group. Ironically, in view of the age warnings, the woman who died was one of the older mums. She was 43 when she died. Her family were obviously devastated but they spoke out to urge people to keep getting vaccinated. They recognised that what happened to their loved one was very rare and that the risks of Covid-19 were much greater. Very brave and public-spirited of them, I thought.

All I would say is that the poor woman seems to have been repeatedly fobbed off by the GP and by A&E, until someone recognised how ill she was. I don't know if she could have been saved if they had acted sooner.

My daughter (31) can’t wait for hers. She’s a teacher and very frustrated that in our area they skipped the 30-40 age group to give the Pfizer jab to the younger ones. Apparently supply of Pfizer is low at the moment.

We're in Birmingham, my 2 sons are 32 and 24 but with different GP practices, the younger one gets his first jab on Thursday but the elder is still waiting to be invited and pretty annoyed that his younger brother is getting his before him.

My daughter (35) is expecting a baby in the Autumn. Until recently, the advice was that expectant mothers shouldn't be vaccinated. This has now changed and they are now allowed to have Pfizer or Moderna. She was absolutely delighted to have hers last Thursday.

Well you're right there ExD . I wondered what was going through their minds!

I dont think I'm blind Biscuitmuncher Just prefer, on balance to believe in credible science.

If it was the same picture I saw, I was concerned that there was no attempt to socially distance.

Just saw a photo of mile long queues in London of mainly young Chinese people desperate to get their jabs.

I was glad for them and everyone else that so many of them had decided to be vaccinated.

From what I've read in Bradford the majority of hospitalised Covid cases are people with no vaccination history or who have had just one injection.

I hope more people come forward.

Biscuitmuncher

It amazes me how you all blindly believe what you are told, from the most inept leaders

So - do tell us where you are getting your information then, please, so we too can be more fully informed. It surely can't be a secret, if YOU are privy to it?

Biscuitmuncher

ExD I feel it's been rushed out. It concerns me that the companies that make them have immunity from prosecution. A lot of people have died or been made very ill from the vaccine

A lot of people have died from the vaccine? Really? I think very few, proportionally. As for being 'made very ill' - there are sometimes mild side effects, a few flu-like symptoms. One person's 'very ill' is most people's "I took a paracetamol, felt fine". The clots, for example - you are far more likely to die from thrombotic blood clots by being on the pill or even flying.

The vaccine wasn't 'rushed out' either. It was based on plenty of previously made vaccine experience.

Anyway - your decision is your own, I guess. My sister-in-law lives with a fervent anti-vaxxer who claims all vaccines are 'bad science' and he spends many hours a day on the computer believing all sorts of conspiracy theories. What I can't forgive, with him is that even though the sis-in-law had her first vaccine, she's now been persuaded not to have the second one. She is 74 and vulnerable. He is 55 and not.

My eldest is not one those- but i think she's reluctant, maybe till she sees we are indeed all ok, those of us who have had it??

My eldest has shown some reluctance, but she also didnt bother with the flu vax i dont think- but i nagged her about that- i also am going to 'nag' about the covid vax too, because ive got a few medical problems (including a clotting one) and have survived ok with now both jabs! Plus if when i was so very ill 2 xmases ago it was indeed undiagnosed covid (our G.Ps nurse believes so) then she knows how bad i was- and goodness knows i wasnt as bad as some poor beggars have been!) So surely she wouldnt want to risk that herself, nor any of her family! (Her sister is also going to persuade her, as she says shes got no time for 'anti-vaxers'!?

Both my DDs, in their 30's, couldn't wait to get their vaccines; in fact the younger one was below the age limit for that week but was contacted by her medical practice when they had 3 doses left at the end of a day. She rang a friend and they both dashed to the health centre to get jabbed!
My elder daughter works for the company that set up the protocols and analysed the data for the AZ trials. She explained to me why they were able to test it in a shorter time than usual and it wasn't because it was 'rushed through'. The techniques they have learned from this will be able to be used in future to get treatments trialed, tested and approved sooner.
If given the choice she would rather have had the AZ vaccine, given all that she knew about how rigorously it had been tested.

I don't think I could say the vaccine 'certainly does not cause infertility' because one of those articles says there is 'no evidence' or 'theoretical reason' that it does. Perhaps more honestly it should say there is 'no evidence so far'. Just thinking about the thalidomide problem some years ago. We only know what we know at the time. There's a quote somewhere that says 'if only hindsight could be foresight'.

My granddaughter aged 28 and her boyfriend 29 have had their first vaccine

My middle son 31 has not been offered it yet, though he works on public transport- i thought they'd at least have had one by now.He can't wait to get a vaccine! I dont know how the 'younger people' not knowing about all those other diseases would have anything to do with it? The reason they haven't had experience of those is probably because their parents made sure they were vaccinated against them when they were babies/children- it doesn't mean they haven't heard of them- I've told my kids as they've grown up what they've been vaccinated against, (everything i was offered!) And/or daughters usually ask their own mums anyway what they themselves either had or were vaccinated against when they have or consider having a family! The reason most haven't had experience of a certain disease is probably because they were vaccinated! So surely that would persuade them to be vaccinated now??

I wish the news wouldn’t show blanket statements like that.
I’m sure some young folk are reluctant, the same way as some older folk are, but all my teenage GC have had 2 jabs now because their asthma made them vulnerable.

Biscuitmuncher

ExD haven't you heard, flu has been wiped out. No one has caught it! And am I getting the flu jab? No I've never had one

Flu has been wiped out because of Covid restrictions! It will be back, almost certainly, when restrictions ease. I have enjoyed not catching colds throughout lockdown too. But the vaccines are allowing us to come out of lockdown despite some increases in cases. I’ve had both jabs bow and the sense of relief is incredible. I was terrified of catching Covid, convinced that I would be seriously ill with it because I am in my fifties and overweight. It’s your choice but I think it’s rather a silly one. You are at infinitely higher risk of catching the disease than suffering an extremely rare side effect from the vaccine.

My 2 youngest (medical problems) have had both jabs now and coulnt wait! They are 18& 22. My eldest GD was asking why she had not been called already as she has asthma (that was at least a couple of months ago, and she is now 22 also) I texted her as soon as i got a msg saying all over 18's who qualify can go get vaccine. In my BBC news emails it said that the take up of the vaccine is 'quite high' in younger people- so clearly not many of them are listening to the 'scaremongering' on social media!?

Oopsadaisy1

It’s difficult, if it does in fact cause infertility as some have suggested we won’t know for sure for a long time, so there is no way to persuade the young people that it will all be ok.
I’m not sure what my GD will do when she is offered it, she has a heart problem, so if she catches Covid she could be very badly affected, or not, who knows ?

Please stop perpetuating misinformation. It is putting people at risk. If ‘some’, whoever ‘some’ are have suggested the vaccine can cause infertility, they are wrong. It can’t.

Alioop - you say ^I'm sure if they couldn't go to clubs, pubs, hols, etc unless they had jabs they would join the queue with the rest of us." Well no. You are just wrong here.
Maybe some think like this, but as I said above, plenty are prepared to just not go abroad at all if necessary.