Gransnet forums

Coronavirus

Reluctance of the young to be vaccinated?

(240 Posts)
Santana Tue 25-May-21 16:01:24

I asked the 19 year old washing my hair at the hairdresser's whether she would have the vaccine when offered. She said although she was reluctant to put something unknown into her body, she guessed she would have to in order to go clubbing or travel.
I agreed that I could see her point, but I expect the vaccines she had as a baby and child could have saved her life.
It must be very difficult for the young to decide.
We did laugh when I said I was going clubbing as I had both my vaccinations!
Won't risk the nose stud or tattoos though. Far to painful.

Alegrias1 Sat 29-May-21 12:33:25

To say its been rushed out implies it is somehow experimental and risky.

It's been done in record time, that's a whole different thing.

Alioop Sat 29-May-21 12:31:57

I'm sure if they couldn't go to clubs, pubs, hols, etc unless they had jabs they would join the queue with the rest of us. I know it's been rushed out, but to stop myself getting Covid and maybe passing it onto others I'll be getting my 2nd jab as planned on Friday. My friends kids in their 30s have all got their first jabs, it actually their husbands who are nearly 60 haven't bothered!

Frogs Sat 29-May-21 12:27:24

My 40 year old had the vaccination as soon as he could but my 37 year old is reluctant although he says he’ll probably end up having it. He had COVID in November and says he can’t see the point of the vaccination for him as he wasn’t very ill. I told him he may not be as lucky next time.

Maggiemaybe Sat 29-May-21 12:26:39

All my three have had at least one shot. The youngest was given Pfizer, but wouldn’t have hesitated for a moment if he’d been offered the AZ. But then we know someone in her early thirties who was dangerously ill with the virus last year and is still suffering debilitating long Covid symptoms that affect her ability to work. I’m sure she wishes she’d had the opportunity to protect herself.

foxie48 Sat 29-May-21 12:13:18

Just to add to ReadyMeals's post, I understand that as long as they don't have a specific allergy to a component of the vaccine, even those who have carry an epi pen can be vaccinated with any of the covid vaccines but they might keep you back for up to 30 minutes after the first one with the Pfizer one.

Alis52 Sat 29-May-21 12:12:33

My three 18, 21 & 23 have all been vaccinated at least once and absolutely no doubt in their minds it’s the right decision. Same with all their friends. Very thankful they seem able to distinguish between scientific fact and nonsense fiction that’s being peddled online.

mistymitts Sat 29-May-21 12:08:36

Apart from protecting others I think the game changer for the young is the real chance of getting Long Covid. Some of the symptoms of Long Covid are life changing and last a long time.
My children both will take up the vaccine, my son has already had his first dose. They want to get back to as normal as possible a life as they can. As well as not be a danger to other people if they were to pass it on. If you want to be a part of the community you have to do what is best for the whole and not the individual unless you have real medical reasons for not taking the jab. Imagine that we still had no vaccine, where on earth would we be then, forever on lockdown.

Suzan05 Sat 29-May-21 12:07:47

My younger son aged 37 was called for his vaccine. He had a wait of three weeks before there was a free date and time. He went yesterday at 5pm only to be told he had been missed off the list and no Pfizer vaccine was available for him. He was given the choice of having the AstraZeneca or go to the back of the queue and wait as they had received another small delivery of Pfizer. No guarantee there would be any spare by the time he got to the front of the queue. He had already queued for an hour and a half in pain as he damaged his back at work just over a week ago. He is working again with pain relief from his doctor. He chose to have the AstraZeneca vaccine. He said he's not far from forty so decided to go ahead, had he have been a bit younger he would have rebooked. I'm just hoping he will be fine and so pleased he's had a vaccination, he is too. I wonder how many under thirties are accepting AstraZeneca when no Pfizer is available?

ReadyMeals Sat 29-May-21 12:04:40

In hindsight it's probably right for the young to be cautious of the astrazenica jab. Turns out there is a slight design flaw in it that causes bits of the spike protein to break off and can (fortunately rarely) cause clots. It's not worth the young who don't tend to get covid badly taking that risk. Now they know the risks they have started offering the young the other type of vaccine, which appears to be safe unless you have epipen-requiring type allergies.

Casdon Sat 29-May-21 12:02:03

I’m still not convinced that the young are more reluctant to be vaccinated, and it’s no longer the case that healthcare staff are lagging behind the rest of the population, in Wales anyway. If you look at this graph, the uptake is good across all age groups, and 18-29s are over 50% uptake already. I think the media hype is not the reality.
ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1632/idt2/idt2/bd513936-9f3c-4b56-b694-ad8893f0e189/image/816

NotSpaghetti Sat 29-May-21 11:56:36

NotSpaghetti

I'm amazed this seems to be linked to veganism (anecdotally on Gransnet)!

Is it the (compulsory) animal testing?

Yammy Sat 29-May-21 11:51:38

All NHS staff had to be vaccinated against Hepatitis B it was a condition of their contract, why can't it be made a condition of NHS and care home staff to be vaccinated against Covid? Whatever their age.
We all followed the party line and had our children vaccinated with whatever was going.
Why can't they see the benefits? I think a previous poster hit on it when she said they have never seen the devastation of polio or measles etc. maybe if a film was put on social media of people in Iron lungs then they would take notice and get vaccinated when their time came my DD can't wait for her children to be vaccinated. She has had both doses of the Moderna and was quite poorly with both but it did not stop her.

NotSpaghetti Sat 29-May-21 11:48:05

Is this to do with horseshoe crabs?

NotSpaghetti Sat 29-May-21 11:47:36

I'm amazed this seems to be linked to veganism (anecdotally on Gransnet)!

grandtanteJE65 Sat 29-May-21 11:47:19

Here it is not particularly the young who are unwilling to be vaccinated.

I know people of my own age (69) who refuse on the grounds that "they don't know what the vaccine will do to their body" or "I'm never ill anyway, so I don't need it"

The first time I encountered the first of these reasons? excuses? I said mildly that that is true, but we do know what the infection might do to us, so to me it seemed more sensible to have the vaccination than not.

Since then I have tried to ask what people fear, but don't really get an answer.

If anyone asks me, I am happy to tell them that I have had no ill-effects from the vaccinations, but of course, I cannot know at this stage whether there will be any long-term side effects.

There have always been people who were opposed to vaccinations. I had a class-mate at school who was not allowed to have any of the vaccinations we others had. Her parents were not alone in holding that opinion either.

I imagine a great number of those who say just now that they won't be vaccinated will change their minds when or if they discover that they cannot go abroad by plane without a valid vaccination certificate and that the quick tests cost money in most of the countries they might want to spend their holidays in and have to be renewed after 72 hours.

Aepgirl Sat 29-May-21 11:45:42

My beautician who is vegan has refused to be vaccinated. If she wasn't so good at her job I think I would find a new beautician. Her PPI is excellent (way more than most) .

Bluecat Sat 29-May-21 11:39:45

I don't know if young people are reluctant to have the vaccine. The ones that I know have already had it (because they live in the US, where the rules are different) or are going to have it. On the other hand, I have just seen on the news English football fans in Portugal. Many of them are clearly too young to be vaccinated. All crammed together and not a mask in sight. Maybe they do think that they are immortal.

The only person I know who is a vaccine refuser is my sister-in-law, who practises kinesiology and is also a very religious vegan. Her husband says "she has studied alternative therapies and she knows more than we do about what's in the vaccines." I find it hard to believe that a pensioner with no scientific background has inside information about newly developed vaccines. Her son is a doctor and has tried to persuade her but she is unconvinced. I can't help feeling that she is more at risk than most, anyway, as she is almost totally blind and must find it difficult to do things like social distancing. However, it's her choice.

Tish Sat 29-May-21 11:38:06

Amberone—- it’s because of a vaccine they thankfully should have had no experience of these horrid diseases.

NotSpaghetti Sat 29-May-21 11:30:59

Just a plea here for choice. There's a big take up of the vaccines so why be so cross with biscuit and others.

There are people in my own wider family (30s and 40s) who won't be vaccinated and although I think its the wrong choice they do have the right to make it.

Who is protecting who isn't the point if the take-up is good.

Also, not everyone is happy with anti-malaria pills Whiff, and some people wouldn't want vaccinations in order to travel and would rather adjust their lives and travel plans accordingly.

Please let's not bully those who are currently hostile.

growstuff Sat 29-May-21 11:30:42

Tooyoungytobeagrandma

My siblings and I had the mmr vaccine as children and both my siblings caught measles & the one has been left with ongoing issues that have affected their old age. (we all had chicken pox as well 2 of us twice!) But had we not been vaccinated then things could have been far worse and one of us may not have made it to old age. Vaccines don't always stop you getting the illness but can't limit its affect on you at the time and long term. I've had both my vacs and so have my kids who are in their 20's

I thought the MMR vaccine was introduced in 1988. I've only just reached old (ie pension) age, so I don't understand how you all had the MMR vaccine as children.

As a child, I had measles, mumps and rubella. I developed measles encephalitis after measles.

SheilsM Sat 29-May-21 11:30:20

Oh yes hadn’t thought of Botox. Surely this must be much more harmful?!

LFC4 Sat 29-May-21 11:28:01

My daughter and partner are refusing the vaccine, even though her own Dad and I have been shielding as he is ECV. I am sad that they believe all the nonsense on Facebook etc, they are late 30s. We are desperate to see our grandchildren but just too risky.

Cuckoo22 Sat 29-May-21 11:22:05

I’m despairing of all this. I had my first vaccine over 12 weeks ago, being in the clinically extremely vulnerable group, but also terrified of needles. Now the emphasis seems to have changed. Apparently the nurses forgot to come back to me because they are busy visiting local colleges to persuade the young to come forward. My Med Centre says I might get a phone call next week if they have time in between vaccinating and promoting it to the younger people.

Tooyoungytobeagrandma Sat 29-May-21 11:08:34

My siblings and I had the mmr vaccine as children and both my siblings caught measles & the one has been left with ongoing issues that have affected their old age. (we all had chicken pox as well 2 of us twice!) But had we not been vaccinated then things could have been far worse and one of us may not have made it to old age. Vaccines don't always stop you getting the illness but can't limit its affect on you at the time and long term. I've had both my vacs and so have my kids who are in their 20's

Midwifebi6 Sat 29-May-21 10:56:01

Collecting our grandchildren from school one of the dads said “ I don’t need a vaccine God protects me”. I would guess he’s about 25ish.