Reluctance of the young to be vaccinated?

I had my second jab at a big centre yesterday and was the oldest by many years, most were fit and healthy 30s. It made me realise what a rough ride they have had thus far, staying home to protect mainly the elderly. I guess most younger people feel this is their time and the jab means they can now be free to travel etc.
Those who decline have been factored into the equation anyway, so they will do as they please. I'm done with wanting to criticise

Who are the ‘some have suggested ‘ are they informed or just making noise. I was behind someone in a shop the other day who informed the whole shop he wouldn’t be having the vaccination as his mate down the pub said it was bad for you and worse than getting COVID itself ( his mate down the pub obviously wasn’t Professor Van Damn )

My 29 year old daughter in law can’t wait, she is logging in every day to see if she can, my son who is slightly older has had his

My teenage DGC (living overseas) have been pleased to have the vaccination. The youngest is 14.

People's fears can be quite irrational, can't they?

A builder working here said he only had the vaccine because he wants to holiday abroad. He's had some mild side effects and hopes there's no 'long term damage' from the jab.

Strange - as the chances of damage from Covid are so very much greater - and, of course, he drives daily, despite the dangers of doing so.

Whiff why on earth would I say anything nasty about that! I think my perfectly understandable fears doesn't make me a monster

I wonder if it’s a myth that young adults are reluctant to be vaccinated after all? It was on our news tonight that they have hit the 50% already for 18-29 year olds, so it may be that they are not more hesitant than older people, and will take up the vaccine when it’s offered..

Several of the students from my boarding school (overseas) are going tomorrow to be vaccinated. Ages 16 to 19.

My daughter in the UK is desperate to get the vaccine, but there are no locations offering it that she can get to.

Biscuitmuncher
It amazes me how you all blindly believe what you are told, from the most inept leaders

Inept they may be but the benefit of vaccination against Covid 19 has been proved, maybe there are a few people harmed but there are millions that are protected.
Just like any treatment there is a risk of side effects, you have the right to refuse, and suffer the consequences of that, but do they have the right to infect others in a aeroplane or workplace.

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ExD

You're quite right, I have no evidence about adequate testing or not - just a gut feeling that most other drugs seem (again no evidence - just "seem") to undergo many years of testing before being released.
I am very grateful for it all the same, and was willing to risk a bad reaction to it for the cover it gives.
I had my first ever flu jab this year too.

I think there's been plenty of explanation on this thread now about how the vaccines had more than adequate testing ExD. "Gut feel" is no replacement for actually knowing that all the standard testing has been done and that these vaccines are as safe as any others.

I'm glad you've decided to have it

Witzend

I do wonder about ‘no shows’. My first jab was arranged after a call from the GP. I was told that I’d be contacted in about 12 weeks for the second.

Dh had his first a week before I did, and was again contacted by the Gp for the 2nd, so I was expecting the same about a week later.

Nothing happened, so after another week or so I went to the NHS site to book, even though I’d been told I’d be contacted.

It came up with, ‘You missed your 2nd appointment.’

Er, excuse me, I never had an appointment!
Was able to book for the following day, albeit in a different area a bus ride away, but no problem.

Incidentally that area (a very densely populated part of London SW17) has a high percentage of BAME residents, and the vaccination centre was virtually deserted. I didn’t have to wait even for a minute.

Please don’t anyone tell me it was racist to have found this significant.

It’s not racist to report a factual observation Witzend. Glad you managed to get your second jab.

there's been no flu this year! Look it up

Why do you think that might be, biscuitmuncher?

Whiff there's been no flu this year! Look it up! And we are supposed to believe this nonsense

Biscuitmuncher

It amazes me how you all blindly believe what you are told, from the most inept leaders

Don't worry yourself! I most certainly do not follow blindly what our leaders tell us. I listen to people who have been involved personally (three of them) and I read scientific articles.

ExD

You're quite right, I have no evidence about adequate testing or not - just a gut feeling that most other drugs seem (again no evidence - just "seem") to undergo many years of testing before being released.
I am very grateful for it all the same, and was willing to risk a bad reaction to it for the cover it gives.
I had my first ever flu jab this year too.

What holds most drugs back is money. With the Covid vaccines, money was no barrier and extra staff and capacity were brought in to do all the testing and evaluation. I know because a very close friend has been working on a similar vaccine for years.

My son aged 23 can’t wait to have his vaccine, my daughter a nurse in London, has had both and is also pregnant.

Biscuitmuncher

ExD I feel it's been rushed out. It concerns me that the companies that make them have immunity from prosecution. A lot of people have died or been made very ill from the vaccine

The Covid vaccine was certainly fast-tracked because an unprecedented amount of money was spent on it. However, to say it was rushed out just isn't true. Scientists have been working on something very similar for at least 12 years. All of the vaccines completed the clinical trials required.

You're quite right, I have no evidence about adequate testing or not - just a gut feeling that most other drugs seem (again no evidence - just "seem") to undergo many years of testing before being released.
I am very grateful for it all the same, and was willing to risk a bad reaction to it for the cover it gives.
I had my first ever flu jab this year too.

ExD

Biscuitmuncher the flu vaccine doesn't guarantee you won't catch flu, (but that's splitting hairs). Are you having the jab?

The flu vaccine doesn't vaccinate against every strain of flu, only the ones which scientists think are going to be most prevalent. They can make an educated guess from the strains circulating in other parts of the world. The flu vaccine actually gives excellent protection against the variants which have been identified.

I foresee that there are going to be restrictions on what unvaccinated individuals can do, this coronavirus mutates so quickly. Corona virus may be here to stay and we won’t be able to travel to certain countries without a vaccination certificate.

Biscuitmuncher flu has not been wiped out. People still get it and people still die from flu.

Biscuitmuncher

ExD I feel it's been rushed out. It concerns me that the companies that make them have immunity from prosecution. A lot of people have died or been made very ill from the vaccine

Can you please provide the evidence about that a lot of people have died or been made very ill from the vaccine? If that’s the case, you surely have a duty to inform as many people as possible so we can make our own choices.

ExD

I wish there was an "agree"/"disagree" button like the horrible "like" choice on Facebook.
I can see Biscuitmuncher's point in that the virus isn't fully tested, but in the end we had to choose between having a jab or risk catching a potentially fatal illness.
I chose the jab. You chose the illness.
(I'd also like a passport please)

Evidence that its not fully tested please?

I don't worry about vaccine refusers any more. Sure, the government/NHS should do what they can to make sure they get as many people as possible to take the vaccine.

But the take up has been fantastic. If there are people who persist in not wanting to take it, well that's their right. They may be completely deluded, but there you go. There's enough of us who have taken it that we're making a difference.

(Just got back from my second jag. Feeling happy/virtuous/safer/grateful)