Reluctance of the young to be vaccinated?

I wish there was an "agree"/"disagree" button like the horrible "like" choice on Facebook.
I can see Biscuitmuncher's point in that the virus isn't fully tested, but in the end we had to choose between having a jab or risk catching a potentially fatal illness.
I chose the jab. You chose the illness.
(I'd also like a passport please)

muse I'd love to know what choice I had in following lockdown. I'm sure no cinemas or restaurants opened just for me!

Biscuitmuncher

muse what other choice was there but stick to the lockdown laws? But I've a choice about having an untested trial drug, that's made a lot of people very ill for a disease that a lot of people recover from. Also all the vaccines we had as children stopped us from catching the disease, this one doesn't

There was a choice and some chose not to follow the rules. Again, that's where you contradict yourself. If covid doesn't frighten worry you, why did you follow the lockdown rules? With your beliefs, I would have thought you would have ignored the rules.

You are right, it doesn't stop us from catching it, but we develop immunity through vaccination which means there is a reduced risk of developing the illness and its consequences. This immunity helps you fight the virus if exposed. This is from the scientists and medical profession (who I believe) not leaders (who I do not trust).

Where are your figures to show a lot of people have had serious side effects from the vaccines? The NHS report So far, millions of people have been given a COVID-19 vaccine and reports of serious side effects, such as allergic reactions or clotting problems, have been very rare. Or do you disbelieve the NHS as well as the scientists.

ExD haven't you heard, flu has been wiped out. No one has caught it! And am I getting the flu jab? No I've never had one

Biscuitmuncher the flu vaccine doesn't guarantee you won't catch flu, (but that's splitting hairs). Are you having the jab?

They now know what is causing the few problems caused by the vaccine eg they were using heparin (sp) for strokes which is now deemed to be unsuitable. All medicine comes with potential side effects. Look how even small changes at the start of the pandemic saved lives.

All the youngsters I know are keen to have the vaccine. Covid is going nowhere of it's own accord so we must find a way to live alongside it. Surely, none of us want to be living in lockdown every few months and being forbidden or restricted in meeting family and friends. Until something better comes along, the vaccines are the only way at present.

Biscuitmuncher

It amazes me how you all blindly believe what you are told, from the most inept leaders

Funny enough I dont listen to medical advice from politicians but from Drs epidemiologists and scientists who know quite a bit more than me
Does anybody really think the medical profession would cover up deaths from vacinnes

I do wonder about ‘no shows’. My first jab was arranged after a call from the GP. I was told that I’d be contacted in about 12 weeks for the second.

Dh had his first a week before I did, and was again contacted by the Gp for the 2nd, so I was expecting the same about a week later.

Nothing happened, so after another week or so I went to the NHS site to book, even though I’d been told I’d be contacted.

It came up with, ‘You missed your 2nd appointment.’

Er, excuse me, I never had an appointment!
Was able to book for the following day, albeit in a different area a bus ride away, but no problem.

Incidentally that area (a very densely populated part of London SW17) has a high percentage of BAME residents, and the vaccination centre was virtually deserted. I didn’t have to wait even for a minute.

Please don’t anyone tell me it was racist to have found this significant.

I know, we really should do our own "research", shouldn't we?

It amazes me how you all blindly believe what you are told, from the most inept leaders

Are you asserting a cover up Biscuitmuncher? If so we really are straying into the realms of conspiracy.

A lot more than have been reported

Quite a lot of people have died or been made very ill by Covid
A very tiny percentage have had suspected problems with the vaccine

ExD I feel it's been rushed out. It concerns me that the companies that make them have immunity from prosecution. A lot of people have died or been made very ill from the vaccine

Biscuitmuncher

muse what other choice was there but stick to the lockdown laws? But I've a choice about having an untested trial drug, that's made a lot of people very ill for a disease that a lot of people recover from. Also all the vaccines we had as children stopped us from catching the disease, this one doesn't

There are measles outbreaks when the uptake of the measles vaccine is sometimes reduced, quite often due to unfounded scare stories. A certain percentage of children need to have the vaccine to prevent others from getting it. And we forget how dangerous measles can be. How many people have been made ill by the vaccine compared to how many have had it? Do you take paracetamol/aspirin? People can have adverse reactions to them. By your comments I assume you would have ignored lockdown if possible. Many people recover from covid: do you not care about those that have died or those suffering from long covid. Have you not watched any of the reports from India?

Exactly what are the reasons for not having it?
We have infertility, non vegan, religion, clots - can anyone list some more?

I'd really like to know all the reasons for refusal, imagined or real.

One problem I’m hearing about is employment, companies are insisting the employees be vaccinated to reduce the risk to others.
It may well be “elf and safety” gone mad is it going to be a condition of employment?.

Fortunately those that have been offered the vaccine and have refused are in the minority.
We now know the vacinnes reduce transmission and serious illness
I had absolutely no concerns in being vaccinated and all of my family are now fully done or awaiting their second dose as they are younger

Biscuitmuncher

muse what other choice was there but stick to the lockdown laws? But I've a choice about having an untested trial drug, that's made a lot of people very ill for a disease that a lot of people recover from. Also all the vaccines we had as children stopped us from catching the disease, this one doesn't

I don't know where you get your information from but I'd urge you to reconsider your decision. In the last wave my daughter was working in one of the areas which was badly affected, her patients were mainly in their 50's because the older age groups had had at least a first vaccination which protected them from serious illness. She's seen a lot of people of your age in intensive care, some didn't make it. she's not had a single patient in intensive care because of having the vaccination.

I only know one person who’s refused it - a retired ex colleague. However he’s the sort of person who won’t even take paracetamol for a headache, either.
A dd knows one or two - late 30s, early 40s - who’ve refused it.

My 18 yr old gd is having her first jab on Friday. She is at Uni on a mental health nursing course, and will have multiple placements .

Well biscuitmuncher we also gave up a year of our lives to protect You, so don’t forget that.

Now we are having the Vaccines to protect people like You, who won’t have it.

Biscuitmuncher

muse what other choice was there but stick to the lockdown laws? But I've a choice about having an untested trial drug, that's made a lot of people very ill for a disease that a lot of people recover from. Also all the vaccines we had as children stopped us from catching the disease, this one doesn't

Wrong on so many counts.

Biscuitmuncher my son had the measles vaccine as a child still got measles same with the mumps one . But it's better to have the vaccines than not. Bet people in third world countries wish they could have all the vaccines we can have here on the NHS. I know my grandchildren have all had the chicken pox vaccines their parents gladly paid for them.

Any vaccines going all the family has them. When I am 70 will be going for my shingles one.

Wonder how many people who are anti Covid vaccine have gladly paid to have vaccines so they can go to far flung places for their holidays. Also gladly take anti maleria tablets.

Not everyone who has had Covid has survived. How many families has this disease destroyed. I know how ill my daughter and family where when they had it. My daughter and son in law where glad to have the vaccine.
I 've had both doses of mine. And will go for the booster in the autumn . I have the flu jab for the last 4 years because of my heart condition.

Those who are anti vaccine would soon change their mine if they got it or had someone seriously ill in the family from it or even had a relative die from it.