Dominic Cummings

EllanVannin

Can you imagine the outcry there'd have been if the whole country had been completely closed off ??
Short of being armed at borders and entries into and out of the country, what else could have been done ?

Whatever are you on, EV?

Of course they could have closed the borders, without resorting to armed border control. Other countries did it. Essential travellers only coming in* and strict quarantine once they got here. Many people were questioning, at the time, why that didn't happen.

*Indeed, I believe that there are still some Australians who can't get back into their country..

Why I would agree that DC would put a spin on things, he must have a paper trail to back up what he's saying. It's confirmation of what seemed to be happening. No one could have got it all right, but as a country we got it very wrong. The other issue is the timing of the public enquiry, it needs to start sooner than later but that doesn't suit the political agenda. They need to learn from what has happened, our lives depend on it.

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Led By Donkeys

Told you

"Lions led by donkeys over and over again"

Dominic Cummings says it was "completely crazy" he was in such a senior role, "just the same as it's crackers that Boris Johnson was in there and that the choice at the last general election was Jeremy Corbyn"

Even now I don't agree with this free movement while the Indian strain is around, so what's going on?
I keep repeating that a pandemic lasts for 2+ years and it's not safe to travel.
Why are the Olympics still being held when Japan is rife with infection ? Why aren't the competitors being told that they're not going ? Who's in charge of that ?

Can you imagine the outcry there'd have been if the whole country had been completely closed off ??
Short of being armed at borders and entries into and out of the country, what else could have been done ?

I’m with you Lemongrove

It’s easy with hindsight to make these criticisms. I’m not saying that some of them are not true.

I’m surprised DC stayed so long as an advisor if he was so unhappy with what was happening.

Has anyone read the Times article today about Cummings? It seems there is nobody in the government, the country, or indeed the universe who is as clever, informed and able to foresee the future as he feels he is. He has criticised and condemned virtually everyone that he has come into contact with.
I did once read the definition of a narcissistic personality disorder.

Book your seats ladies- in 2 weeks time it’s Matt Hancock’s turn to face the Select Committee- could be interesting but he could always pull the ‘no comment’ line if things get tricky!

Sky News have a programme about it at 8 tonight. Should include all of the important bits.

I have caught as much of this as I could today, but I was working this morning and missed the end as I had another commitment, but I hope it is available on iPlayer for a while. I don't want to do a marathon watch, but I would like to hear it all 'as it happened'.

FWIW I agree that he is being vindictive, but I don't think that that means that what he is saying is not true. He is under oath, and whereas that may or may not matter to his own moral code, it could come back to bite him if he can't back everything up with evidence. Whatever else he may be, he is very clever, and will have had cast iron legal advice.

lemongrove

I think the general public are more than happy with how the PM has done his job, certainly regarding the mass vaccinations.
Dom’s witterings ( yes, boring!)? will be a nine day wonder.

And DC has forgotten about Eat Out to Help Out?
It was so important that mask-free Rishi Sunak had to prance around a restaurant, annoying customers.

news.sky.com/video/chancellor-is-worlds-worst-waiter-rishi-sunak-serves-wrong-table-12024363

lemongrove I respectfully disagree. I voted for them and I am extremely interested in what he (Cummings) had to say. I don’t like Johnson nor Cummings, but I think Cummings gave a very sensible clear eyed description of what went wrong, I think the public could see what was happening internally and Cummings is just confirming it.

one of the early-ish casualties of the covid was cummings' uncle, sir john laws, former lord justice of appeal.
i was acquainted with his wife many years ago, mrs laws.
it was just after sir john's obituary appeared, that cummings was seen literally running away from downing street, en route to county durham.
maybe he was spooked, and wanted to be sure his wife/son had family support if he went down with it ? who knows.

I think the general public are more than happy with how the PM has done his job

And that's why we're in this mess. I'm not sure that the families of the 127,000 would be happy though.

was cummings sacked. he says he resigned.

I think the general public are more than happy with how the PM has done his job, certainly regarding the mass vaccinations.
Dom’s witterings ( yes, boring!)? will be a nine day wonder.

What a slimy man. If things were as bad as he said, why would he not tell the public, he should have called it out at the time but didn’t ad he was gleefully filing he dossier. He should have resigned and said how it was. He should his character, when he told bare faced lies, broke the lockdown rules, made up a totally implausible story, never apologised for it, he was too a arrogant to do what the rest of us were doing, all the time, filling his box, getting his ammunition ready. Would you trust him to take the bins out?. You can’t turn your back on a liar, or a coward. It is very clever being wise after the event, the Pandemic was a once in a lifetime thing, there have been mistakes but we have learnt from them. Would you rather Corbin managed it? This is soon to be whinging I get, we are not through it yet, but all around the opposition are ready to pounce, pity they have all the right ideas after the event, hiding in the background like a groom at a shotgun wedding.

Coastalgran, as i'm sure you know repeating something does not make it true, and i can't bear for Private Eye to be besmirched with these associations.
i think your finger slipped, and meant to type, the spectator.
a very different beast.

Don’t like Hunt but that’s a good question re whether Cummings was doing his job properly too…

coastalgran

Amazing how some think they are above everything. Cummings helped make the rules for lockdown then decided they did not apply to him. Then the puppet master got sacked via the puppet's fiancee and her friends, something he had not really seen coming now he is seeking his revenge, but given Boris's chaotic life (private & public) he will survive. Cummings, his wife and Boris go back a long way to their days in Private Eye, so how much is real and how much is staged for entertainment (ours)!

Private Eye? Don’t you mean the Spectator?

lemongrove

Haven’t heard anything yet that is proven or can be backed up from him, but the most surprising thing is just how boring he is! I expected some fireworks, but no.
Anyone who has been sacked is suspect when they want to get their say at a later date, it may be true or could be a pack of lies.
Hardly anyone is interested ( in real life.)

But won’t the press have a lovely time with the odd ‘bomb’ he has dropped- PM not being fit for the job for instance…I’m interested to see how the PM and Hancock wriggle out of the accusations/his opinions that he’s made…

lemongrove

Haven’t heard anything yet that is proven or can be backed up from him, but the most surprising thing is just how boring he is! I expected some fireworks, but no.
Anyone who has been sacked is suspect when they want to get their say at a later date, it may be true or could be a pack of lies.
Hardly anyone is interested ( in real life.)

? Short attention span?

I find it gripping

He'll be back

I don’t see how you can profess to be interested in politics and find this boring.....

Amazing how some think they are above everything. Cummings helped make the rules for lockdown then decided they did not apply to him. Then the puppet master got sacked via the puppet's fiancee and her friends, something he had not really seen coming now he is seeking his revenge, but given Boris's chaotic life (private & public) he will survive. Cummings, his wife and Boris go back a long way to their days in Private Eye, so how much is real and how much is staged for entertainment (ours)!