Dr John Campbell and blood clots

Pammy - I haven't seen this man before but agree he should turn comments off if that's the sort of comments he's getting.

Given that, and he may be questionable, I think this one thing about injecting for certain into the muscle seems reasonable. Strangely, I did say to my husband that I wondered how they were certain the injections were going into muscle - we even looked up a set of "working drawings" of the shoulder and I'm afraid we just shrugged.
So maybe you can help me here Pammy... if there is a tiny chance it might not be in the right place, why don't we take a little extra time on it? What harm would it cause?

Oh thank God. Put your tin helmet on Pammy1949

Have to say as a retired medical doctor I'm not impressed with John Campbell.

I hear words come out of his mouth that are right-sounding and I simply don't find WHAT he is doing and HOW he is doing it consistent with his claim to want to help people, protect people from COVID and put down disinformation.

With half a million followers and weekly revelations that professional propagandists are paying influencers on YouTube to promote anti-vaccine conspiracy theories I find Campbell's YouTube channel worryingly enigmatic.

His 'comments' threads attached to his videos are almost exclusively anti-vaccine activists engaged in a war against worryingly few vaccine promoters and anti-conspiracy-theory rationalists, and these agitators are quoting "Dr" John on his own videos claiming he is a medical doctor with expert authority AT ODDS with the consensus of medical research and vaccine research and citing the abundance of distractive trivia he presents his audience on various claims for alternative therapies and unproven medicine.

He knows full well that he is being quoted as a "medical" doctor in the comments of his own videos and he knows full well that anti-vaccine conspiracy intrigues are being promoted there voraciously.

For some reason inexplicable to me he repeatedly fails to turn off the comments for the harm they clearly represent. Perhaps he likes the audience and the activity too much, but I rather expect someone who was not seeking attention or popularity and just wanting to put down myths, focus hearers on vaccinating and staying safe, and dispel conspiracy conjecture ought to know that referring to self as 'Dr' and proceeding to deliver highly medical advice relating to prescribed treatment, vaccines and virology to lay people who mostly don't understand and are seeking reassuring authority, will give the impression that he is an authority which those who repost him and quote his insistences on pursuing wild deviations into speculative and anecdotal treatment as part of their anti-vaccine rhetoric.

I have to be inclined to agree with the government scientists and the medical mainstream on this one. In communicating on a critical subject keep the main thong the main thing, don't fill peoples minds with distractions, the potential for unwise reckoning, too many options.

GP's and consultants are already seeing this all the time thanks to 'Doctor Google' - patients who've consulted chiropractors, dieticians, nutritionists, nurses, retired non-specialists before they come in for consultation and spend most of their time trying to direct diagnosis and treatment and fighting for wholly unfit or speculative treatments, supplements, vitamins, drug choices - and then get frustrated when we don't support those demands and take the tone that we're withholding something superior from them. They end up with entirely false expectations which have, one far too many occadions, been very damaging to them.

I don't really think people who need a vaccine here and now need to have their head filled with what doctors in Peru are experimenting with. I'm sure patients in Peru wish they were getting treatment in America or Europe.

Very worrying. He could turn off the comments and put an end to being misrepresented by anti-vaccine theorists ON HIS OWN YouTube.

Well, it is somewhat surprising that the minister who replied to him was Nadhim Zahawi, who is responsible for the government's Vaccine Taskforce. I wouldn't expect him to know all the scientific data or the arguments for and against, but he has a team of people working for him and I would expect him to respond with some knowledge. I didn't listen to it personally, but I understand he did a car crash of an interview on Radio 4 Today. It doesn't inspire confidence.

As he says he might not be a scientist or a doctor but he has been vaccinating people for over 40 years so he must know something about it! And if there’s even the slightest chance that it could save someone’s life it should be considered. It wouldn’t surprise me if the minister he wrote to didn’t have to find out what aspirate meant!

NotSpaghetti

So what was the 2016 paper that he talked about. Presumably that has been peer reviewed?

I don't know. I watch him a couple of times a week and think he's usually sound (but not always). That's why I was interested that he obviously feels strongly about the issue and France and Denmark have instructed medics to aspirate when administering the AZ vaccine. I doubt if the two governments are acting on a whim.

Ok. I haven't listened to him before. Maybe the 2016 paper is in the links.

I don’t know. But he usually states if something has been peer reviewed or not peer reviewed. I don’t read the links because they’re too scientific for me.

So what was the 2016 paper that he talked about. Presumably that has been peer reviewed?

I didn't diss him.

I said he wasn't an internationally renowned scientist and when you asked for examples of where he'd got things wrong I gave 2. Scientists know that sometimes they have to change their minds about things when the facts change and I'm sure Dr Campbell is the same.

I watch him as well, sometimes I agree with what he says and sometimes I don't.

I was going to ignore your posts to be honest but I’m not having someone diss Dr John who has helped more people emotionally over the past year or so than some of us will do in our whole lifetime. And he doesn’t claim to be an expert. Which is why I like him.

MayBee70

Perhaps you should do a web chat with DrJohn so we could all bow to your superior knowledge Algerias. . I’m sure he’d be quite open to that.

Oh just stop it. Am I allowed to say grow up and stop being so nasty?

If not, report me and get me deleted.

Good communication is essential.

But we need the people with brains the size of planets as well, otherwise there's nothing to communicate

It's all not unknown for busy GPs and nurses to have little time to keep up with the latest research and practice.

Perhaps you should do a web chat with DrJohn so we could all bow to your superior knowledge Algerias. . I’m sure he’d be quite open to that.

It’s all very well having a brain the size of the universe but if you can’t get your message across in language that normal people understand it’s a waste of time. I used to work with a doctor whose patients would come out of his surgery looking totally confused. I would call them over and explain to them things like ‘you take one pink tablet and two blue tablets’. This was before all tablets were packaged.

Vitamin D?

Ivermectin?

I think he is doing a great job of sharing the information with a wider audience but he is not infallible.

As someone that has listened to Dr John right from the start of the pandemic I must point out that he has rarely been wrong about anything and pre empts a lot of things. If you watch one of his blogs going back to January 2020 he was warning about the danger coming from China, was advising people to wear masks etc. He does err on the side of caution but surely that’s the best thing to do in a pandemic. And he puts links to all the information he uses so anyone can check out the reasoning behind his ideas. He seems to be respected worldwide and has a worldwide following. He has been a lifeline to me during the pandemic and I’m so grateful to the person on gransnet who first mentioned him. I challenge anyone to listen to any of his blogs and find fault with what he says. There was an interesting web chat on yesterday’s blog with a retired Australian doctor who asked the nurse to aspirate the needle when he had his second vaccine and the nurse had no idea how to do it. Dr John also believes there is nothing better than first hand accounts when it comes to seeing how other countries are handling the pandemic.

From his You Tube Channel: "John Campbell is a retired Nurse Teacher and A and E nurse based in England. I also do some teaching in Asia and Africa when time permits. These videos are to help students to learn the background to all forms of health care. My PhD focused on the development of open learning resources for nurses nationally and internationally."

from Wikipedia: As a physician with the National Institutes of Health (NIH), Fauci has served the American public health sector in various capacities for more than 50 years, and has acted as an advisor to every U.S. president since Ronald Reagan. He became director of the NIAID in 1984 and has made contributions to HIV/AIDS research and other immunodeficiency diseases, both as a research scientist and as the head of the NIAID From 1983 to 2002, Fauci was one of the world's most frequently-cited scientists across all scientific journals.

Dr Campbell is very good at the interpretation of research and data but he is nothing like Dr Fauci.

Dr. Campbell must be the UK equivalent of our Dr. Fauci here in the states. I listen to him whenever he's interviewed and was happy to get the "Fauci ouchie" as it's jokingly referred to here!

Whitewavemark2

My cousin who is in her final year of training as a doctor, says that she is absolute awe of nurses and their incredible professionalism, dedication and sheer hard work.

I wasn't demeaning the fact he is a nurse by any means. I just like to look up the background of people who are discussing covid. I am a retired nurse after 40 years !!

My cousin who is in her final year of training as a doctor, says that she is absolute awe of nurses and their incredible professionalism, dedication and sheer hard work.

After listening to one of his videos I thought I would look up Dr Johns background. He is a doctor due to having a PhD and not a medical doctor. He is a nurse and nurse teacher. Very watchable but just thought I would share the information.

The Serum Institute in Denmark and France are now recommending aspiration before administration of the AZ vaccine.

www.coronaheadsup.com/coronavirus/denmarks-ssi-recommends-changes-to-syringe-injection-method-for-coronavirus-vaccines/

Is there absolutely no risk whatsoever of accidentally injecting into a vein? None whatsoever under any circumstances.