Why are the young reluctant to take the vaccine?

It is over six months since the oldest were first offered the vaccine, but only 2 months since it was made available to under 40s. What was the vaccination rate of over 70s in March? Was it much different to the vaccine rate for under 40s now?

Oops sorry I meant Piers Corbyn, not Piers Morgan. More coffee needed!

I just saw that anti vax protesters caused vaccinations to be cancelled yesterday, apparently Piers Morgan was heading the crowd! (so the Independant says but I cant share their link)

metro.co.uk/2021/07/11/covid-vaccines-at-brighton-site-postponed-after-anti-lockdown-demo-14908794/

Apparently the police did nothing? It is crazy how these people are now not being stopped. Its their choice to not get vaccines, but they should let people make their own decisions,

There were certainly supply issues with the Pfizer vaccine in June:

www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/immunology-and-vaccines/pfizer-vaccine-shortage-concerns-highlighted-in-letter-between-health-secretaries/

It's possible they've been resolved, but I suspect not. Unfortunately, the shortages have affected those to be vaccinated last and will probably affect any decision to vaccinate teenagers.

I don’t know of any young people personally who’ve refused the vaccine, either personally or anecdotally.

BUT there does appear to be a reduction in supply around here (Teesside/County Durham). It took my son and dil far longer to be able to book an appointment when the vaccine became available to them, than it did me to book mine. The closest slot for my son was initially over a 2 hour round trip, my dil it was even further. These were the only options showing for days, and just wasn’t possible around their jobs. I also know of a young man in his 20s who was turned away in the day of his appointment. They didn’t have enough vaccines, and so prioritised second doses. According to our local news, this was true of everyone under 40 was booked in that day. He is currently still an ‘unvaccinated’ statistic, because his new appointment isn’t for a couple of weeks.

Our vaccination centres also won’t bring forward second doses for those under 40. Obviously this is with good reason, they’re prioritising need. But it means that the double vaccinated numbers are MUCH higher for those 40+ than those in their 30s. The data could be read as those younger people not prioritising their second dose, when in reality, they just can’t have it yet.

As an aside, I had a prescription review recently. When discussing a booster the doctor told me that a fully vaccinated 60 year old, is still at greater risk than an unvaccinated 30 year old. Obviously this risk isn’t zero, and I still think having the vaccine is important for the greater good of society and to protect others. BUT I think we need to acknowledge that for some young people we are actually making it quite difficult.

Dont know why there is such a hooha about the vaccine. To be fair could you imagine the state of the world if they hadnt had found one by now? The world would be like one of those films when most people had been wiped out. I for one am so grateful that we have one and we are lucky that we have the choice. There is so much speculation and data this and data that, no body has knocked on my door to ask my view where does
all this data come from? Most of all the young people I know have had their 1st jab and couldnt wait.
Vaccines are part of our life, we have them when we are babys so why the fuss now.

I don’t know of anyone in my circle and neighbours whose youngsters haven't been vaccinated, particularly the ones at University, they were all just waiting their turn. Just one person who is a pensioner that I am close to refuses, she thing it’s all a conspiracy.

Yes OnwardandUpward with vaccines the slight risks for an individual will always be small compared to the collective benefit for the majority.

We are lucky to have vaccines for anything.

So sorry to hear about Long Covid and those draining periods @Whatdayisit So sorry about your daughters coeliac disease too, all very hard to deal with.

The thing is if we get something wrong after a vaccination its impossible to know if we would have got it anyway. I was told by an antivaxxer that I will get cancer from the vaccine, so I asked them how they could prove its from the vaccine and that it wouldn't already be on the cards. They couldn't answer!

Lin52 You can read one article free in the Spectator so should be able to read Baggs article.
Interesting.
Thanks Baggs

And youngest dd was doubly vaccinated in December as she is now a nurse so her experience from the rushed cervical cancer jab didn't make her hesitate.

I am not anti vax in anyway shape or form.
Interesting about periods as i have at age 49 been put on the pill for the inflammation from long covid and haven't been able to have my smear since i had covid in april 2020 as my bleeding has been constant and heavy. Since having the vaccine the gp has put me on double dose of the pill and i am still having a period starting every Friday - draining.

My youngest dd was one of the first to have the cervical cancer vaccine and was poorly immediately from therein - since been diagnosed coeliac. No idea if it was linked but coincidence.

So i can empathise with the younger ones hesitancy.

I know of one person who's elderly who hasn't had it. He seems very against it and fearful of it. I think he must have been "got to" by the anti vaxxers online. Or perhaps someone threatened him that they wouldn't love him anymore if he accepted the vaccine? It's so wrong how people are using it to blackmail others.

Everyone else I know above age 35 has had it. Apart from some neighbors who get their news from Tiktok and don't have much of an education.

Meanwhile the lies are still being told and the false information still circulates. I blame the government who arent doing anything to remove these secret groups from Telegram, Facebook or remove the stupid TikTok posts and instagram posts, spreading fear and misinformation.

"Unvaccinated young people are believed to be behind a rise in cases."

I thought the rise was because BoJo didn't close flights from India quick enough once again letting the Delta Variant
in. But no lets blame the young who were at the bottom of the list for the vaccine. Maybe they are just thinking what is the point with that f**kwit running the show

I think they were starting to be swayed but have been put off by the whole blood clot furore. Although, everyone I know between the ages of 30 & 40 have been vacced. I know a couple of 45 year olds who don't want the vax. I also know of a fair number of 18 year olds overseas who have had it.

Its good to know how much the chance of transmission is reduced. Everyone I currently mix with has had one or both vaccines. I would still mix with unvaxxed without a worry seeing as Im double vaxxed myself, but I only know a few and they are the ones not talking to me for being vaccinated.

There are also a lot of people posting anti vax stuff on Instagram and they refer people to their secret Telegram groups in the comments.

Thank you Skye for providing the links which show that vaccination does reduce transmission. I’ve seen the claim a few times that this isn’t the case and felt sure I’d read that it is in fact the case, but couldn’t remember where I’d seen it. Thank you.

I think young people are more likely to visit sites like Tiktok and Telegram where these harmful secret groups operate that fill their heads with anti vax stuff. Its important to talk to them to make sure they aren't vulnerable to these groups. There is a lot of fake stuff.

I didn't even know until 2 days ago that Tiktok has a Ketamine problem (I thought Chinese sites were anti drugs- but its based in HK and apparently not so strict)

I also only just found out that Telegram has class A drugs advertised to buy online. Watch out for your young ones.

Other vaccines are known to affect menstrual cycles, it’s not just Covid. They are short-term changes and things soon revert to normal.

Baggs

One of the reasons for reluctance that I've read about is that they are seen as experimental vaccines in the sense that nobody actually knows what the long-term consequences might be (if any).

In older people this concern matters less than it does for asomeone who has their whole adult life ahead of them.

This is the reason my daughter gives. Her children have been vaccinated so she is not anti vaccine , but she believes that the covid vaccine is still experimental., and I agree that as older people the decision is easier.

Because they’re indestructible …… or so they think.

PS I scrolled down and found this www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/long-covid-and-periods-the-unspoken-impact-on-female-well-being

Jillyjosie

I don't think anyone else has mentioned a possible connection to changes in menstrual cycles which have been observed and are concerning some young women (or 'people' as the article below says)
"COVID-19 vaccines and periods: What do we know so far?" www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/can-covid-19-vaccines-affect-periods

I hadn't heard of the menstrual changes before. I do wonder whether this is the vaccine itself or actual stress of living in these times. Stress has been known to alter all kinds of body functions and in itself can kill.

LauraNorder

Most of the youngsters I know have been keen to have their vaccination. The only young pair I know of with doubts are a couple who don’t have tv, don’t listen to radio or read newspapers. They seem to rely exclusively on social media for their information, I am told that some of the stuff they spout is very worrying because they believe it. Hopefully their type is in the minority and others can set them straight.

One of the people that almost caused my youngest to have doubts doesn't own a tv or read newspapers and relies on internet groups on Telegram for their info. I really hope these types are in the minority because they are really spreading some very nasty and unsettling rumours.

I don't think anyone else has mentioned a possible connection to changes in menstrual cycles which have been observed and are concerning some young women (or 'people' as the article below says)
"COVID-19 vaccines and periods: What do we know so far?" www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/can-covid-19-vaccines-affect-periods