I wonder how much money that company donated to the Tories?
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The decision to end restrictions is dangerous and premature, unethical and illogical.
(561 Posts)Scientists have published a letter in the Lancet, saying that they have 5 main concerns over the governments plans for unmitigated infection.
I have taken this from John Campbell’s site.
First - disproportionately affecting children and young people
There are 17 million people with no covid protection.
Exponential growth will continue until millions more people are infected
This will leave hundreds of thousands of people with long term illness and disability
Risks leaving a generation with ill health.
Second - transmission in schools will lead to educational disruption.
There should be strict mitigation in schools and eventual vaccination of children.
Important for clinically vulnerable children and socially vulnerable children.
Third - emergent of vaccine resistant mutations, with their potential spread.
Fourth - there will significant impact on exhausted clinicians.
There is no break yet between infection and hospital admission.
Rising case numbers will inevitably mean more hospital admissions.
Millions of people are waiting for procedures and many will die waiting.
Fifth
Deprived communities are very exposed.
The deprived and marginalised will be disproportionately affected.
Given that vaccine offers the same protection and herd immunity, the governments strategy is unethical and illogical.
The U.K. government must reconsider its current strategy and take urgent steps to protect people and children.
We believe that the U.K. government is embarking on a dangerous and unethical experiment, and we call on it to pause its planned endings of all mitigation on 19 July.
That’s right GrannyGravy13, it looks like it’s effectively a call-off contract in case it’s needed. Alegrias posted a fact-check above too.
So? They have to get plans in place just in case....I can imagine the outcry on here if they didn’t have anywhere for the deceased in the scenario where it was needed.
Alegrias1 it’s becoming a bit of a habit I agree with your post, despite my skim reading the tender details that is the conclusion I came to.
Contract end date September 2025 
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Westminster City Council Tender for Temporary Body Storage Services
The Framework Agreement to be procured will provide safe and secure temporary storage facilities.
Temporary Body Storage Services
Ohhhhhh I looked at that link! They anticipate this going on for a long time! I copied and pasted the links. Speechless!
Contract start date
27 September 2021
Contract end date
26 September 2025
Thank you Casdon just skimmed it, the small print states it cannot guarantee numbers , duration or if indeed extra facilities will be needed.
Cunco
I am quite surprised that the scientists say that there is no break yet in inflections and hospital admissions. The daily coronavirus update suggests the rise in cases is much sharper than the rise in hospitalisations or, indeed, deaths with COVID-19 on the death certificate. I appreciate that there is a lag between infections and deaths; but while today's numbers for England show a moderate rise in deaths, it is a tiny percentage of the rise in cases 4 weeks ago.
Of course, this could change but while we can get too optimistic, we can also get overly pessimistic too. If our vaccinations become ineffective, all bets are off.
If we keep stop-starting the economy, one day it may not start again. Government can make rules and give advice but not all people actually take it and I think the appetite for restrictions has waned. I am not saying this is a good thing or that I won't be using a mask but I suspect it is a reasonable reflection of how it is.
Good sensible post??
Did you know that London has asked for companies to tender for supplying temporary mortuaries starting this winter for four years as they are expecting excess deaths.
If something seems very unlikely, its probably a conspiracy theory. 2 minutes of googling, really.
www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-body-storage-idUSL2N2O6230
Quote: Missing context. While the tender is real, it is not linked to the vaccine or the current pandemic.
Using disinformation to spread conspiracy theories and frighten people really isn’t very nice.
Cant find it effalump can you post a link please? Thanks
Is this what effalump meant?
www.government-online.net/westminster-city-council-tender-for-temporary-body-storage-services/
effalump
Did you know that London has asked for companies to tender for supplying temporary mortuaries starting this winter for four years as they are expecting excess deaths. If that doesn't scare the bejabers out of you, nothing will. Well it's there on gov.uk for anyone to read but I bet you'll not hear about this on MSM and the big question we should all be asking and demanding answers to is, if London is doing this, are other cities doing the same?
I didn't know that (thanks for sharing) but it also does not surprise me.
I think they feel that the excess deaths will be the unvaccinated and possibly the more delicate among us as the virus continues to mutate. I don't wish to spread fear, but the SARS virus has always been a mutating virus and this has been known from the beginning. Initially I think it was considered not helpful to say this, but as time goes on and we still need to be careful, I hope it explains something.
The double vaxxed among us will have some protection, but as the virus continues to mutate we don't know how much protection we will have and I think that's why they are considering a booster jab.
I feel that even though things look far from over, there are still positive steps we can take to be in the best possible health for ourselves.
effalump can you provide a link please to where on gov.uk that is?
I have just had a quick look and couldn’t find it.
I know there were temporary mortuaries at the beginning of Covid epidemic, some ice rinks were being prepared, haven’t heard anything about them being reinstated for the coming winter.
MayBee70
How can people see what’s happening in Indonesia/India and still say covid isn’t real?
I got my comment removed on the DM site but I'll try to say it here.
Someone I know (who isn't now talking to me) was spreading videos of India where people were being killed by Dr's and not covid. I am pretty sure they might have got some film footage from a film they had seen and cobbled it together with some news footage because even now I can't even fathom that what I saw is true. I don't want to say too much in case I get in trouble here but due to what I have seen, I believe someone is editing videos to deliberately spread fear and misinformation.
Did you know that London has asked for companies to tender for supplying temporary mortuaries starting this winter for four years as they are expecting excess deaths. If that doesn't scare the bejabers out of you, nothing will. Well it's there on gov.uk for anyone to read but I bet you'll not hear about this on MSM and the big question we should all be asking and demanding answers to is, if London is doing this, are other cities doing the same?
How can people see what’s happening in Indonesia/India and still say covid isn’t real?
I'm double jabbed and I agree with you @Whitewavemark2
I wish I could say the same of many of the commenters here www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9783781/Covid-UK-Polls-Britons-anxious-return-normal-Freedom-Day.html#comments
I’ve just watched Dr John Campbell, who advises that we should definitely continue as we are if not for the time be more careful.
We as double vaccinators have a moral duty to protect the vulnerable and of course the NHS.
So sorry to hear that Maybee70
There's a story in the Sun today about a man who's got covid and regrets not getting the vaccine.
Meanwhile at "The Unconventional Parent" on Insta, there is a plan to get a LOT of people together in Parliament Square on Monday (see pic)
There are a lot of people who believe covid isn't even real, still. It's a great concern.
My friend in South Shields says her son has friends that refused to be vaccinated and they now have covid.
I agree with you Pippa.
The anti vaxx & conspiracy guys have been sharing stories that the vaccine is going to kill us all so the population will be reduced and then "The Great Reset" will happen. Hmmm somehow I feel that opening up things too soon is a more plausible population control ploy.
The anti vaxxers said the vaccine will kill us. No. THIS is natural selection, I feel. The people who are not vaccinated won't have as much protection against the Delta variant (and any new strains)
Depressing isn’t it?
It wouldn’t be so bad if people made a mistake but learned from it.
It's just come up in memories MayBee, and I felt the same.
PippaZ
I think this says it all.
I can’t believe that this was on my timeline a year ago and we are still in the same position now.
Chaand Nagpaul chair of the BMA talks so much sense. He seems to be horrified by the governments plan of action.
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