The Autumn Spike?

MayBee70

I’ve actually spent a couple of days pondering on posts I’ve made where I’ve been hanging onto every word issued by ‘the scientists’ and, apart from Dr John (who I admit listening to and whose advice I take), I can’t remember doing so. I’d be really grateful if someone could dig up something I’ve written to that effect. I do know I was trying to purchase face masks at a time when the WHO and even JVT were saying they didn’t work so I certainly wasn’t agreeing with the scientists then and I was angry with Witty for stopping testing and tracing last spring because it was ‘already in the community’. And I did listen to the alternative SAGE group.

Not sure how to go back on this site but if you put Maybee70 masks in your search engine ie Google all your posts on masks should come up. I found them there's quite a few but you may know exactly what you are looking for

To be honest I can’t be bothered to. I thought the people that seem to remember all the things I’ve written would be able to remind me!

Will be having our Flu jabs soon. I am quite concerned about the flu/covid combo hitting the country.

rosie1959

MayBee70

I’ve actually spent a couple of days pondering on posts I’ve made where I’ve been hanging onto every word issued by ‘the scientists’ and, apart from Dr John (who I admit listening to and whose advice I take), I can’t remember doing so. I’d be really grateful if someone could dig up something I’ve written to that effect. I do know I was trying to purchase face masks at a time when the WHO and even JVT were saying they didn’t work so I certainly wasn’t agreeing with the scientists then and I was angry with Witty for stopping testing and tracing last spring because it was ‘already in the community’. And I did listen to the alternative SAGE group.

Not sure how to go back on this site but if you put Maybee70 masks in your search engine ie Google all your posts on masks should come up. I found them there's quite a few but you may know exactly what you are looking for

To sounds a bit to close to stalking for comfort

Just trying to be helpful obviously not needed
Sometimes think this site is like a parallel universe lol

I didn’t mean to be snappy rosie x ( I just want this pandemic to be over…I’m so tired of it!)

Oh yes MayBee I second that. I just want it to stop, I’ve had enough of it now.

No problem Maybee70 we are not where we were this time last year things are improving.
I tend to just on with life as normal now not letting the pandemic change things any more than necessary life's to short and with a fair wind and all these vacinations it won't kill me off any time soon

I couldn't agree more - I want it to be over. We now have Professor Harris talking about the forthcoming "Twindemic". For heavens sake I am sick of it, the worry etc. I have my flu jab on Wednesday.
I had to go to the walk in medical centre last Friday, no appointments to either see/talk to a dr for 2 weeks. The receptionist asked various questions, including "any covid symptons", I said no, and I have had both covid vaccinations - he just rolled his eyes! Doesn't instil much confidence.

But it's not over. We have to pick ourselves up and carry on while the various crises continue - about another three years, in my estimation. How we do that will differ from person to person; some will fail to cope from time to time - even GP receptionists. I have just been listening to the level of abuse NHS staff are getting. It seems many have a short fuse at the moment.

If mask wearing, good ventilation and air filtering had been pushed as hard as 'sanitising' we could be in a better place now.

Exactly MaizieD.
It annoys me that so many small shops and offices have not at least had their doors open during good weather, yet all have the squirty stuff there.

Pippa I agree. Wanting it to be over, and it being over are two different things. I’m a bit disillusioned I thought we might be in a better place by now. Nonetheless we get on with our lives and we try to be careful, but not staying at home all the time sort of careful. We’ve had two holidays, one abroad, and we eat out from time to time. We associate with our family, but I have rather less association with my friends. I’ve been to the cinema twice with my grandson but much as I love theatre we won’t go there yet. I don’t generally use public transport, but have used planes to go abroad, and a train to go to London one day. I never use buses or any other sort of public transport regularly.

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NSW, Australia.

I'd like to say something about Dr Campbell. I know many people disagree with me about him and his videos, and at the start he definitely got things right early on. However his latest video, from yesterday, is dangerous nonsense.

He is still advocating Ivermectin, a position that encourages people who believe in quack cures. He sarcastically tries to discredit the lead author in a BBC journalistic review of the research, seemingly thinking that this will discredit the actual academic research. He then dismisses an academic meta study, focussing to begin with on the fact that the lead author is "just" a student. Seemingly unaware of the lead author's credentials and even the fact that it is standard practice in academia to credit the person who does the work as the lead author, even though they are not the most senior person on the paper. (I speak from personal experience.)

He has lost the way and is becoming dangerous.

The efficacy of Ivermectin has been bubbling along just under the surface for over a year. There does seem to be so many differing views.

And now the majority and educated view is that its not worth using. Whatever St John says.

Daisymae, I don't think problems with the testing are our main concern. There are now so many people who are double jabbed, maybe with a booster too, with asymptomatic Covid.

They won't be getting tested - yet are capable of spreading the virus nonetheless. They've stopped wearing masks, hand washing, sanitising and reducing contact (especially indoors).

As colder weather hits us, they won't be opening windows either. It looks like perfect conditions for another surge in cases - but I do hope I'm wrong!

No comment on the quote from anyone on the methods NSW Australia are using. This is a slightly less robust version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiuNHuxLOR8

The state is saying this is a virus of the unvaccinated who will not get the freedoms as the State opens up.

In the Twitter post the author was almost screaming her anger from the page at this happening. I don't see it as any different to people having to go into isolation hospitals in the past. I am usually very pro our "rights" and am wondering why I feel that way over this.

Help!

I understand why someone with breathing difficulties can't wear a mask - why can't they use one of those perspex screens?
I know they don't give anything like as good protection as masks - but at least it shows you're trying.
People seem to have forgotten you wear the mask principally to protect others - not yourself.

PippaZ

No comment on the quote from anyone on the methods NSW Australia are using. This is a slightly less robust version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiuNHuxLOR8

The state is saying this is a virus of the unvaccinated who will not get the freedoms as the State opens up.

In the Twitter post the author was almost screaming her anger from the page at this happening. I don't see it as any different to people having to go into isolation hospitals in the past. I am usually very pro our "rights" and am wondering why I feel that way over this.

Help!

I did read it and have been thinking about it but haven’t reached a conclusion of any kind. Possibly because I’m being ridiculed so much on facebook by anti vacc’ers/maskers that I find it hard to sympathise with anyone that refuses to have a vaccine unless they have a good reason. In which case it’s wrong for them to be ostracised. I think Australia are desperate to open up for travel again. Maybe they shouldn’t have been so slow vaccinating people though and were, if I remember right critical of the AZ vaccine which put people off being vaccinated and made it an uphill struggle to then get them to do so.

Alegrias1

I'd like to say something about Dr Campbell. I know many people disagree with me about him and his videos, and at the start he definitely got things right early on. However his latest video, from yesterday, is dangerous nonsense.

He is still advocating Ivermectin, a position that encourages people who believe in quack cures. He sarcastically tries to discredit the lead author in a BBC journalistic review of the research, seemingly thinking that this will discredit the actual academic research. He then dismisses an academic meta study, focussing to begin with on the fact that the lead author is "just" a student. Seemingly unaware of the lead author's credentials and even the fact that it is standard practice in academia to credit the person who does the work as the lead author, even though they are not the most senior person on the paper. (I speak from personal experience.)

He has lost the way and is becoming dangerous.

This is actually a case of me listening to his blog and not necessarily agreeing with him. I think he sometimes misses the wider picture in that anti vacc’ers are using ivermectin as a way of arguing against vaccination and they need to be discredited. And some people are buying it off the internet and taking the wrong dose. This needs to stop. On the other hand I’m still deeply suspicious that the covid treatments that are being widely used are the most profit making ones and for that reason I do question some things albeit trying not to voice my opinion in case I’m doing the same thing and adding to the anti vacc’ers arguements. However, you must surely agree that, going right back to January of last year if people had listened to DrJohn we wouldn’t now have a pandemic. And, if he gets things wrong he does admit to it, something other so called experts never do. He did point out that people were asymptomatic carriers very early on in the pandemic. And that people shouldn’t stop wearing masks etc. I think his common senses blogs far outweigh the sensationalist ones. And I did read somewhere yesterday ( it wasn’t about covid, it may have been about Dupuytrans and someone was asking which vitamins they should take) that a lot of people were deficient in VitD and zinc.

I have never heard of Ivermectin so have just looked it up. What’s off putting as far as I am concerned is the fact that the anti-vaccine brigade are pushing it.

I’m sure this has been asked and answered before, but is ‘Dr.’ John a qualified medical doctor?

However, you must surely agree that, going right back to January of last year if people had listened to DrJohn we wouldn’t now have a pandemic.

Maybee70 An interesting and well balanced post, I think, thank you. But I don't agree with the comment you made above. Its a worldwide pandemic, Dr Campbell couldn't have stopped it, even if what he said was 100% true.

My main objection is that he is unaccountable. He can say what he likes, but he doesn't know the whole situation and doesn't have to take into account the bigger picture when he holds forth about things. He was very much in favour of aspiration when the health authorities were not, and there were many current and former health professionals here on GN who disagreed with him. I think he puts ideas in people's heads and doesn't have to deal with the aftermath.

Now, as for Independent SAGE

I’m sure this has been asked and answered before, but is ‘Dr.’ John a qualified medical doctor?

No, he's an emergency nurse with a PhD in Nurse Education. So he's perfectly entitled to call himself Dr Campbell.

He isn’t a medical doctor. But he does provide links to all the papers he reads. I have to trust his analysis of them as they’re far too complicated for me. Unless he’s got it wrong ivermectin in it’s correct dosage is perfectly safe.