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Your idea of stable??

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Scones Fri 15-Oct-21 21:39:38

It seems from the polls that the public aren't just accepting of the government's handling of the virus but actually positive about it. Polls show the Conservative's popularity going up alongside the death toll.

Alegrias1 Fri 15-Oct-21 21:25:01

Must be different in Scotland then.

ONS link doesn't work for me.

imacmum Fri 15-Oct-21 21:22:45

Other countries are not testing like we are in England. Discovered this whilst in Spain on holiday recently, none of our Spanish or Norwegian friends there had ever even had a test whilst we are still doing 2 a week. However they all wear masks inside and in the street and they say there are no cases. Possibly because nobody is being tested We need to bring mask wearing back as majority seem to have given up wearing them

M0nica Fri 15-Oct-21 21:16:05

Alegrias www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-wales-58890309 Interview with a hospital consultant in Wales saying the majority of those in hospital and those dying are not vaccinated

This link, if you scroll right down, shows that the age group with the lowest number of infections is the 59 years plus, although they are proportionately more likely to be admitted to hospital and to die than other groups. www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/article/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/deaths

My last sentence was pure conjecture.

Alegrias1 Fri 15-Oct-21 19:31:05

M0nica

lemongrove The majority of those in hospital and dying are mainly the unvaccinated, some have other conditions but I think I read that there are very few older people as they have nearly all been vaccinated and, although it is never said. I think, that all those elderly people most at risk died of COVID before vaccination came in.

Comforting, but wrong. Especially the last sentence.

Scottish data only, but I expect the English proportions are comparable. Please read it, it is still good news but people need to understand what the situation is.

www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/vaccine

Daisymae Fri 15-Oct-21 19:17:58

I fail to understand why every action is not being taken to minimise the infection rates. There's lots that could be done and virtually nothing is happening.

FarNorth Fri 15-Oct-21 19:12:55

Ventilation is needed in buildings and public transport.
Too bad if it's cold - that's better than cosily sharing infection around.

M0nica Fri 15-Oct-21 19:11:12

lemongrove The majority of those in hospital and dying are mainly the unvaccinated, some have other conditions but I think I read that there are very few older people as they have nearly all been vaccinated and, although it is never said. I think, that all those elderly people most at risk died of COVID before vaccination came in.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 15-Oct-21 19:01:23

The number of new cases may be similar each day but at those levels calling it ‘stable’ is putting some spin on it, ditto the number of deaths.

Daisymae Fri 15-Oct-21 18:56:29

I think that I would like more measures taken to curb infection. Schools, shops, any public places where infection is likely to occur. It's not rocket science, there must be a reason why, as a county, we are doing so poorly.

lemongrove Fri 15-Oct-21 18:02:31

Hardly ignored, it’s constantly in the news ( numbers of deaths
With Covid present/ hospitalisations / new cases.)
What would you like people to do? Life has to carry on, albeit with some care still.
In the main, the people who die are old and have health conditions and some unvaccinated.

Daisymae Fri 15-Oct-21 17:52:08

Javid said this week that the infection rates are stable, bit up, bit down. In fact it seems that management means just ignore it and it will go away. Why are the public so accepting? It's pretty much a scandal, hundreds of people dying each week and yet it's pretty much ignored. This article highlights some pretty horrendous facts
www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/15/why-britons-are-tolerating-sky-high-covid-rates-and-why-this-may-not-last