Your idea of stable??

My impression is that school vaccination of 12-15 yr olds is slow for organisational reasons rather than parental or teenager reluctance. Scottish system much better, but are the centres for school-age also doing the booster jabs?

Our relatives from England who recently holidayed in Wales were very happy to notice there was more mask wearing than at home.

Must say we are in Wales about three times a week and the law is obeyed, in fact a friend of ours forgot his and got chucked out the shop.

I'm not in shops very often but I have seen a few people not wearing masks in shops and haven't seen anyone chucked out yet - I'll keep a look out ?, could add a bit of excitement to a shopping trip!

I always wear a mask when I leave the house, it has become second nature for me but many people don’t and it makes me angry if I am in a shop and someone comes in not wearing one, especially small shops. Must say we are in Wales about three times a week and the law is obeyed, in fact a friend of ours forgot his and got chucked out the shop.

Casdon

It’s law in Wales, and it is obeyed. There is an issue with holidaymakers from England though, who don’t understand that masks are mandatory, so some ill feeling about it from them. I haven’t heard anybody moaning, people here agree it’s the right thing to do on the whole, and think our government is handling Covid well.

I’m English and I would have happily worn a mask if I’d visited Wales Casdon. However I realise that’s because I already wear a mask inside buildings anyway. I’m astonished that English people have the brass nerve to complain about wearing a mask when visiting another country where it is mandatory. When in Rome….. and all that. How on earth have we managed to produce so many entitled and rude people in England?

Depends on where in Wales. Places I’ve been recently whilst visiting relatives, masks wearing was sporadic.

Mollygo

Alegrias1 Does Scotland have mandatory mask wearing and is it obeyed?

Looked that way when we visited Edinburgh recently but back over the border …no

nanna8

I can’t see it is that hard to wear masks, just politeness. Don’t you have to wear them in shopping centres? Surely you do ?

Not in England nanna8.

It’s law in Wales, and it is obeyed. There is an issue with holidaymakers from England though, who don’t understand that masks are mandatory, so some ill feeling about it from them. I haven’t heard anybody moaning, people here agree it’s the right thing to do on the whole, and think our government is handling Covid well.

people!! ...my typing this morning! I need another coffee!

Yes and mostly, yes.

I was in the local Co-op yesterday, everyone except one young person with a sunflower lanyard was wearing their mask. When I go to my dance class, we all wear masks in the corridors etc and only take them off when we're excercising. Local Indian restaurant the other day, everybody wearing a mask apart from when they were seated.

I'm sure there is some dissention but the expectation is that everybody wears a mask, Ppople who don't are the exception, some will never conform but that doesn't mean we give up entirely.

I can’t see it is that hard to wear masks, just politeness. Don’t you have to wear them in shopping centres? Surely you do ?

Alegrias1 Does Scotland have mandatory mask wearing and is it obeyed?

Lucca we don’t have mandatory mask wearing because people won’t stand for it. It interferes with their freedom and their rights.

Aye, because of course the Scots and the Welsh are well known for their deference to authority and lack of concern for their rights.

(Sorry NI people, I don't know the circumstances in your part of the country)

Lucca

Maddyone. but ordinary people should also be held responsible for their individual behaviour

But sadly they won’t. Even when we were supposedly in lockdown etc people broke the rules and nothing was enforced either.

In my mind it is just plain bizarre how many countries have mandatory mask wearing and England (I mean England) doesn’t …..please can someone explain that ?

Lucca we don’t have mandatory mask wearing because people won’t stand for it. It interferes with their freedom and their rights. They don’t believe masks make any difference. I’ve read it all on here.
An acquaintance who has worn a lanyard all through the pandemic, for no other reason than that he doesn’t like masks was boasting that he was right because he’s never caught COVID.

And that’s before we get to how we police it. It’s not even the shortage of police that causes the problem, it’s the total disrespect for the police if it interferes with someone’s rights.
I’ve worn a mask all through, and still wear one now in shops and busy places.
How would you make masks mandatory?

Because we have a PM that believes in complete freedom to do anything you like. So that he can. And does…..also he’s moved on from covid now. Short attention span. Seems the important thing for him at the moment is getting First Lady status for his (latest) wife. Must get our priorities right, y’know…

Maddyone. but ordinary people should also be held responsible for their individual behaviour

But sadly they won’t. Even when we were supposedly in lockdown etc people broke the rules and nothing was enforced either.

In my mind it is just plain bizarre how many countries have mandatory mask wearing and England (I mean England) doesn’t …..please can someone explain that ?

Johnson saying today that no need for action as things are going according to plan. Pity he doesn't let the BMA and NHS confederation know what the plan is as they seem to be worried. Hey, what would they know?

All the so called ‘Covid recovery group’ care about is the economy, not people’s health.

There was unrest among many who resented being forced to "muzzle" themselves, as Ann Widdecombe put it.
Perhaps the government thought that seeing increased infections would persuade them of the need for masks.
I don't think it has/will if they don't actually know people who are badly affected by covid.

(Or perhaps the government really are the uncaring idiots they seem to be.)

I wrote to my MP recently accusing the government for aiming for herd immunity. This was a follow up letter from the one I sent her saying the Freedom Day was going to result in the situation we’re in now. I’m still waiting for her reply. People had got used to wearing masks: it had started to become part of our culture. It’s going to be difficult to reimpose that now.

My local GP has just been on air on LBC radio saying a mandate is needed on wearing face masks in public places.

Our local hospital was on black alert yesterday with ambulances queuing and diverting to other hospitals. She asks how long this is sustainable? The Government are not supporting the NHS.

The Government appear to be prioritising the economy over health, and only act when deaths are out of control.

However, to have a healthy economy we need to have the NHS working.

France, Spain and Germany prioritise the economy, but they’re doing it with masks

“Freedom Day” makes no sense whilst we’re in the middle of a pandemic.

It may well be true the the government are pursuing herd immunity, which will probably never actually happen, but ordinary people should also be held responsible for their individual behaviour. People are acting as though there is no Covid. They are choosing not to wear a mask, they are choosing not to sanitise, they are choosing to ignore social distancing, they are choosing to go to crowded places such as theatres, sporting events, and festivals. Combine these behaviours together, no masks, crowds, no social distancing and you have perfect conditions to spread the virus.

Whitewavemark2

I keep reading that what Johnson is in fact doing now is once again pursuing herd immunity.

He had better be careful with that as Bolsonaro along with other members of his government are being charged with homicide.

I totally agree. BJ is acting like Bolsonaro. Friends in Europe call us the “mad Covid Isle”.

Ah! I get what you mean. I've seen information about the profile of those who have been hospitalised but I must admit I haven't taken much notice of it. I'm more concerned about minimising the risk to myself and I'm very clear how I can do that. People can only be infected if they come into contact with droplets from an infected person and I just do what I can to avoid that. I'm not too hung up about other people, although I feel sorry for those who had no choice.