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Criminally Negligent: What Jacob Rees Mogg Said! ?

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FannyCornforth Thu 21-Oct-21 17:19:38

I am speechless.

Can someone please link to what shite he came out with today.

According to him the Tories don’t need to wear masks because ‘they all know each other’, and they are ‘fraternal and convivial’.

My extremely vulnerable DH is almost having a breakdown (no exaggeration) because of how things are panning out.

We can’t access the health services that we desperately need because we need to isolate due to the government’s idiocy.

There are hundreds of thousands of people in similar circumstances.

Callistemon Sat 23-Oct-21 17:02:18

They do hide the wrinkles.

tickingbird Sat 23-Oct-21 16:57:35

smile

Urmstongran Sat 23-Oct-21 16:42:50

And me. ?

lemongrove Sat 23-Oct-21 16:40:50

tickingbird

Thank you Callistemon. To be honest I’m fed up of the whole thing. I’ll continue wearing my mask for the foreseeable as I see fit regardless of JRM or anyone else.

Yes, me too.

lemongrove Sat 23-Oct-21 16:38:52

Shall we have the truth kali? Rees Mogg did not advocate against mask wearing.Did you watch the clip?
He was answering an SNP question about why he and other Conservatives in the House were not wearing them.It was an almost empty HOC and the few Conservatives on the benches were not wearing them.The SNP in Westminster always wear theirs in line with Scottish rules on mask wearing indoors
( they could hardly not do it, as on tv.) There are no mandatory rules on mask wearing at the moment in England.
He made a light hearted comment about it.He may be an eccentric, but is a well thought of constituency MP.
On Wednesday, at PMQ’s ( it was packed) neither side of the House were wearing masks, apart from a very few.Which is their choice.You may think that all MP’s there should wear masks, but that’s another matter, at the moment it is up to them, as it is to the rest of us in England.

Urmstongran Sat 23-Oct-21 16:33:36

I always think JRM is unfailingly polite to people. He listens, doesn’t interrupt and is courteous. Unlike many.

Olive53 Sat 23-Oct-21 16:29:35

Alegrias1 A PowerPoint indeed. What a condescending superior person you are. Don’t speak to me as though I’m completely stupid and ignorant of the situation.
Everyone has their own opinion you know, it’s not just your opinion that’s obviously the right one.

lemongrove Sat 23-Oct-21 16:28:53

Kali2

MissAdventure

A load of mass debaters. wink

Oh that would be wonderful- to have a proper debate rather than just getting slogans and soundbites or attacks back.

Wouldn’t it though!
And think you missed the humour of MissA post btw.wink

JaneJudge Sat 23-Oct-21 16:07:39

I'm sure if he worked in a food processing factory with his friends he would want to wear a mask and for his friends to wear a mask too.

It is well documented that poverty has been a factor in how people recover from Covid (or not sad )

Kali2 Sat 23-Oct-21 16:02:33

songstress, have you actually been reading this thread???

We are not talking about not going out... we are talking about wearing masks in crowded public indoor spaces.

And Rees Mogg has been advocating against!

chris8888 Sat 23-Oct-21 16:01:14

My doctors have not yet received any booster jabs, so no-one is able to get this. Going online its impossible to find anywhere that have them locally.

This government has loss its ability to lead us through the rest of this pandemic I think.

songstress60 Sat 23-Oct-21 15:54:45

Rees Moggs and the rest of the government are idiots. If you and your partner are vaccinated get out of the house and enjoy yourselves. This life is very short, and staying in the house all the time is bad for mental health. I went out EVERY day for longer than an hour during the lockdowns as I live alone. Masks do not protect. I am not putting up with any more draconian laws now we have the vaccine. One rule for them and another for the plebs.

MayBee70 Sat 23-Oct-21 15:20:35

I suggest you check out his voting record when it comes to supporting the peasants as well….

MayBee70 Sat 23-Oct-21 15:15:00

Well, that is the area that Rees Mogg belongs in imo

Baggs Sat 23-Oct-21 15:08:47

MayBee70

Baggs

Gabrielle56

Are we to assume that you admire this idiot? Poor you, never been withing sniffing distance of real humour? Shame...

Nice to see someone does understand debating cut and thrust and is using it in the same way as JRM was.

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t Rees Mogg renowned for his filibustering as a means of stopping important bills getting through parliament (probably the sort of bills that are there to protect the riff raff of society). Not something that I find very admirable. Still I suppose he learned how to do it at his public school debating societies.

I daresay your knowledge is correct, MB70. I know nothing of JRM's renown. I've only become aware of him in the last very few years and have not been interested enough to 'follow' him in social media parlance. What little I have encountered doesn't suggest he has anything against what you call riff raff.

My school was a state school, btw, although also old and the oldest buildings had a Hogwartian look according to my Potter mad DD.

I think I'll look up some other renowned filibusters. I forget in which historical political context I first heard of the practice except that it was in a school history lesson – probably of the Gladstone and Disraeli era.

Sheilasue Sat 23-Oct-21 15:05:42

Twat. Comes from another planet.

tickingbird Sat 23-Oct-21 14:54:57

Thank you Callistemon. To be honest I’m fed up of the whole thing. I’ll continue wearing my mask for the foreseeable as I see fit regardless of JRM or anyone else.

growstuff Sat 23-Oct-21 14:54:46

My impression of JRM is that he sees it all as a big joke. His carefully manufactured image as an upper class twat allows him to get away with it.

MayBee70 Sat 23-Oct-21 14:33:49

Baggs

Gabrielle56

Are we to assume that you admire this idiot? Poor you, never been withing sniffing distance of real humour? Shame...

Nice to see someone does understand debating cut and thrust and is using it in the same way as JRM was.

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t Rees Mogg renowned for his filibustering as a means of stopping important bills getting through parliament (probably the sort of bills that are there to protect the riff raff of society). Not something that I find very admirable. Still I suppose he learned how to do it at his public school debating societies.

growstuff Sat 23-Oct-21 14:33:20

Breda If I were a cynic, I would say it's because there are those who don't care that much about those who have died/are dying. After all, they're nearly old and have underlying health conditions, so will die soon anyway. Covid has affected certain groups of people more severely than others - and they're those who are least likely to vote Conservative.

As for the NHS waiting lists, I don't suppose they care much about them. After all, it's always possible to jump the queue and pay for private health care. In any case, it's more money for the likes of Sikora, who was bleating on about people not getting cancer treatment until his private clinic was awarded a significant sum of taxpayers' money.

Good job I'm not a cynic!

Callistemon Sat 23-Oct-21 14:23:25

Being an Oxford educated historian
Should mean that he might know something about plagues, quarantine etc
www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200421-dubrovnik-the-medieval-city-designed-around-quarantine

Callistemon Sat 23-Oct-21 14:20:54

Jaxjacky

Sorry that’s arse about face…

Your mask goes on your face and er .......... well you know what I mean
?

Zoejory Sat 23-Oct-21 14:20:36

GillT57

MissAdventure

A load of mass debaters. wink

grin grin

That reminds me of a clip from USA. Rather hilarious. I love the guy at the end who breaks into a smile

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA9mXxB40AI

Breda Sat 23-Oct-21 14:17:42

Being an Oxford educated historian does not necessarily imply that he has any common sense and given his recent comments it is quite acceptable surely to question his common sense or his understanding of what is happening in hospitals or indeed within communities across the country.

Furthermore he seems to revel in presenting himself as one belonging to an elite and therefore the norms of civil society in which we all show regard for one another do not apply to him and his kind.

What I don’t understand is why he / they cannot make the connection between high infection rates and the unnecessary costs that that imposes on our NHS and the tax payer. Surely all sensible restrictions will help reduce the risk of further infections meaning that the funds of the NHS can be deployed in treating the backlog of patients needed care for other conditions. A few sensible and well thought out restrictions will assist the economy to get back in its feet and may ensure that “normality” will return for all of us all the quicker.

Just saying…….

Baggs Sat 23-Oct-21 14:06:43

Gabrielle56

Are we to assume that you admire this idiot? Poor you, never been withing sniffing distance of real humour? Shame...

Nice to see someone does understand debating cut and thrust and is using it in the same way as JRM was.