Booster vaccination

Alegrias1

Have I ever denied that others have had difficulties?

Blaming me for saying something I never said doesn't help the cause at all, I'm afraid.

I quoted your exact words -so if you did not mean what you said, you should not have said it.
What you said however was clearly cynical and intended to cast doubt on the validity of others’ experience.
cf As an example isn’t it funny how the same people have accessibility problems to banks or shops?
Yes- those with mobility issues.
You may not have in so many words, denied but the smug, demeaning way in which you “did not deny” the problems of others was obvious to more than me

(Oh, sorry - excuse me if I misunderstood, but haven't you just said that you haven't had any problems? QED)

Have I ever denied that others have had difficulties?

Blaming me for saying something I never said doesn't help the cause at all, I'm afraid.

I'm really sorry for anyone that's had problems, and this may get me deleted, but....isn't it funny that its always the same people who have problems ?
That’s very passive aggressive and I would rather not explore what lies behind this “I’m all right, Jack” attitude.
No, it’s not funny . Perhaps the same people who have problems are precisely those whose health issues or situation cause or highlight the problems?
I would not have appreciated the difference between a third vaccination and a booster because it does not apply to me. Or the confusion over the timing and accessibility of the Covid booster, because I have been lucky that our health authority seems to have got their act together and acted with commendable efficiency.
But it would be short sighted and selfish of me to deny that others have had difficulties.
Get down from your ivory tower!

From a patient safety POV, it is exactly the attitude ‘Well, most people are fine,’ that allows scandals such as the Stafford Hospitals to occur. The vast majority of people who had dealings with the Stafford hospitals went home again unscathed, but some did not. Sticking heads in the sand allows such events to take place. People know what’s going on, people try to bring attention to it but it’s swept under the carpet.

I don’t recall that I’ve used the chaos or shambles word but today a community nurse arrived on a visit to my housebound (and now frail) mum. She did a regular check up on her but couldn’t give her either the flu or booster because they don’t have any. The nurse herself said they are under great stress because everything is so chaotic and they don’t know what’s happening from one day to the next. Her words, not mine.

Interesting read from Kidney Care UK:

www.kidneycareuk.org/news-and-campaigns/news/lack-clarity-around-3rd-dose-immunosuppressed-leaves-thousands-risk/

It seems it hasn't just been a handful of over-anxious worriers who haven't known what's going on.

Now I know I live in an efficient area.
We were texted to arrange a third dose 6 months after our second. Choice of 3 venues and several times. Our neighbours also found the same happened for them and staff in work (where it was applicable) had the same experience including the lady who is in remission from cancer.

Gosh, Mary
I’ve just read your last post, it’s not good is it
In fact it’s bloody awful

growstuff

Alegrias1

FannyCornforth

Oh come on Alegrias

No, really Fanny, I've had enough. People are more than entitled to complain about the confusion about the immunosuppressed, but otherwise what do we expect? Millions upon millions of doses are being given out for some there are some problems.

I refuse to get caught up in the complaining and I'm going to put the other side.

Why should you have had enough? You don't have to read people's complaints. They are anxious and I can confirm that communication has been awful. I have my appointment now, but until I received a text, there was no communication at all.

I have had enough because there is enough anxiety in the world right now without people adding to it by posting about how there's been no communication, how everything's a shambles, how the government are trying to kill us off.

Didn't they say they would contact you when you were eligible and then contacted you when you were eligible? What else did you want, daily bulletins on what number you were on the list?

Have your say, by all means, but a bit of balance is required.

I’ve started a thread about the third primary vaccine. Please post any information that you have about it in there! Thank you

I took part in a Zoe webinar a few weeks ago, which discussed the vaccine and the immunosuppressed, where we could ask questions and hopefully get some answers and reassurance.
I was astonished to see the large number of patients, who had the same experience as some of us on here, posting about lack of support.

Two of the participants were professors from university teaching hospitals in Oxford and London.
They explained that due to the lack of information being filtered through the system, and GPs not receiving the relevant information, they were so concerned that they had started giving their immunocompromised patients the third vaccination at their clinics, due to the delay in accessing it through normal channels.
The recommendation is that a third primary vaccine be administered eight weeks after the second one.
I had mine in April, it's now November. I have every reason to make a fuss.

There are at least 500,000 immunocompressed in England alone add on the rest of the UK. It's a fair number.

It's six months to the day since my last jab and I've just been on line and booked my booster. No probs (so far!)

Alegrias1

FannyCornforth

Oh come on Alegrias

No, really Fanny, I've had enough. People are more than entitled to complain about the confusion about the immunosuppressed, but otherwise what do we expect? Millions upon millions of doses are being given out for some there are some problems.

I refuse to get caught up in the complaining and I'm going to put the other side.

Why should you have had enough? You don't have to read people's complaints. They are anxious and I can confirm that communication has been awful. I have my appointment now, but until I received a text, there was no communication at all.

Alegrias1

Good Marydoll. I want everybody to see my post too.

Because your experience has been positive, does not mean that everyone else has had a positive experience.

Because your experience has been negative, does not mean that everyone else has had a negative experience. As I posted, everyone has a right to post about their experience. But then to, condemn the whole system as a disaster because of that - no on.

Seems to have gone quite well for Liz46

This is like saying that there's no poverty because some people are rich.

Alegrias1

No I can't keep quiet, honestly.

Marydoll et al excepted, obviously; its fine, really it is. I'm not in denial, I'm not minimising anyone's problems, but for the vast majority of people ITS FINE. Sorry if that upsets anyone, sorry if you think you're being ignored, but I've had enough of the doomsayers.

I'm really sorry for anyone that's had problems, and this may get me deleted, but....isn't it funny that its always the same people who have problems?

Anyone noticed that the people on this thread who were complaining about not knowing what was happening got their callups on time and have had their appointments with no issues, or are just waiting for them to come up?

Report away. It's worth it.

And isn't it funny that the same people never seem to have any problems with Covid vaccinations, gaps on supermarket shelves and lack of fuel at petrol stations!?

Funny old world!

I am going for my booster and flu jags this afternoon. I will let you know how it goes.

Good Marydoll. I want everybody to see my post too.

Because your experience has been positive, does not mean that everyone else has had a positive experience.

Because your experience has been negative, does not mean that everyone else has had a negative experience. As I posted, everyone has a right to post about their experience. But then to, condemn the whole system as a disaster because of that - no on.

Seems to have gone quite well for Liz46

I'm really sorry for anyone that's had problems, and this may get me deleted, but....isn't it funny that its always the same people who have problems?

You really don't get it, do you Alegrias? What an unpleasant remark to make. Because your experience has been positive, does not mean that everyone else has had a positive experience. Some compassion would not go amiss.

I won't be reporting, I want people to see your post.

We went to Boots in Chester for our boosters and it was very friendly and efficient. Other people came who did not have an appointment but the staff dealt with everyone very well.

You can be eligible but that doesn't mean you have to have your jab exactly on the 6 month anniversary of your second jab. The sense of entitlement does my head in.

Sorry, again.

Didn't Roberts also point out that the daily number of does had gone up by 13% compared with the previous week? So they are having a big push?

Sorry, but I'm quite angry about this.

For the vast majority of people in this country, Scotland and the UK in general, the booster program is doing fine. We hear about all the places where there are issues, but the people who have come on here to say everything went fine are just being talked over.

You are perfectly entitled come on here and say your experience was bad, but to then go on and say the whole thing is in meltdown- not fair.

It’s not a shambles, but the rollout certainly isn’t going as well as it could, this from BBC News:
Since September, more than seven million have received a third jab in England. The programme though has struggled to keep pace with the number hitting the six-month mark and becoming eligible.
Roughly 5.8 million people now qualify but have not yet been jabbed, according to John Roberts, from the Covid-19 Actuaries Response Group, which has been tracking the rollout, up from 2.8 million a month ago.
Given the WHO warning about cases surging in Europe, there has to be a big push in the next few weeks to catch up.

Aveline

I'm not going to report you Alegrias but you're not actually right on this issue. We did get our call up but when we arrived on time and as directed only to find we'd walked into a complete bourach! The organisers must have known how many people they'd sent appointments to yet were completely unprepared for us actually turning up.

But for most people its fine.

I am right.

I'm not going to report you Alegrias but you're not actually right on this issue. We did get our call up but when we arrived on time and as directed only to find we'd walked into a complete bourach! The organisers must have known how many people they'd sent appointments to yet were completely unprepared for us actually turning up.

FannyCornforth

Oh come on Alegrias

No, really Fanny, I've had enough. People are more than entitled to complain about the confusion about the immunosuppressed, but otherwise what do we expect? Millions upon millions of doses are being given out for some there are some problems.

I refuse to get caught up in the complaining and I'm going to put the other side.