COVID cases on the brink of breaking 100k a day (Zoe Covid Study)

When I went to school I was taught that there are 365 days in a year. If Spector is claiming to have been telling the government about the new symptoms of Covid for 600 days, he must have been telling them for approaching two years. Really?

MayBee70

Well I’m actually at breaking point at the moment so I’d appreciate it if some of you just back off for a while. Thanks in advance…..

I sincerely hope you feel better soon MayBee70

That went well, didn’t it ?

M0nica

The OP has misquoted the headline of the Zoe study. It is headed Could COVID break 100,000 cases per day?, not 'COVID cases on the brink of breaking 100k a day'

I listened to the first 10 minutes or so of Tim Spector's presentation and found it to be very full of ifs and buts and vague assertions, whichI found very disappointing as I have always had a lot of respect for Tim Spector.

It isn't a quote from the article. It was the heading on an email.

You don't want to know; that's fine. I do; that's fine too. There is no superiority in either position so please don't turn 'teacher' on others. Correcting others is not a good look. Correcting others based on misinformation seems to stem from arrogance.

Well I’m actually at breaking point at the moment so I’d appreciate it if some of you just back off for a while. Thanks in advance…..

Maybee I am not a mind reader. I didn't know your son had long COVID and you didn't know whether anyone in Urmstongrans family had died of COVID

Because serious illness and hospitalization is at a low level relative to pre vaccination levels the government is sticking to vaccination and herd immunity, anyone who refuses vaccination takes their chances, it’s their choice

Many of those that die Covid positive would have contracted the virus because their immune system was poor and would likely have had pneumonia or influenza in previous years.

Good grief.

Paranoid, moi?

And not everyone follows people around constantly picking fault with everything they post….

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They'll only be removed if somebody reports them. Me, I prefer to leave comments up so that people can see what others have posted.

I don't think they are worthy of deletion anyway. They're just rude.

We're all sick to the back teeth, many of us have had friends and relatives who have had the virus, we don't all resort to insults.

Don’t worry. My comments will be removed by HQ. And, quite frankly it’s bad enough having to deal with the pandemic without having to read some of the stuff on here…..sick to my teeth with all of it…..

MayBee70, I have an opinion as well as anybody else. And mine is based on actually listening to what he said, rather than thinking oh look he's a professor on YouTube, he must be right.

Sarcasm isn't a good look but of course attacking a poster's character in an attempt to undermine them is all the rage at the moment, isn't it?

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I just watched the whole Spector video. I've contributed to the Zoe app from the start but I'm a bit disappointed in him, really.

Clickbait title - 100,000 on his model (and it is a model) is a different measure to the 100,000 that Javid was talking about. Did Javid say they would take action at 100,00 cases or is that something Tim thought would be useful to say, that would help his case?

He actually said "realise that we can bring you the best data". I'll just leave that there with no comment.

He said that part of the problem with some countries in Eastern Europe – the ex Soviet bloc, he calls them which is a bit derogatory – is lower vaccination rates. Lithuania, 67%, Germany 69%.

They’ve been telling the government about the new symptoms, he says, for nearly 600 days. 600 days ago was before the first lockdown started.

Anyway I have more…but my message is, that taking nuggets of information from YouTube videos will get us nowhere. But I’m probably just an unquestioning peasant.

M0nica

Maybee So Urmstongran didn't mention those who have died - so you reach totally unjustifiable conclusions that she doesn't care about those who have died.

It wasn't relevant. This whole discussion is about those who have caught the disease, not those who have died.

You said absolutely nothing about those with Long COVID, but of course you clearly think they do not matter, they are mainly young people and can handle it, even if it does ruin their education and their health for life.

How dare you. My grandson has symptoms of long covid at the moment having caught the virus due to no measures being taken in his school to prevent it and the fact that children of his age weren’t vaccinated before going back to school which is what should have happened. I just hope his symptoms are short lived.

Good points Alegrias and GrannyGravy.

The ONS figures aren't reported daily, so there's a lag anyway and they tend to be lost because they're "old news" by the time they're reported.

Misrepresentation. The ONS results are reported regularly, as soon as they are available. Hardly "lost". They are often the headline report on BBC, SKY etc.

growstuff

MayBee70

Urmstongran

Well 41,278 cases in the last 24 hours cheered me. Less than a football stadium for the whole of our UK. Not many when you think of 70 million people living here. I wonder what percentage that maths is?

No thought for those that have died ….?

Nah! They're all old and have underlying health conditions anyway. Who cares about them? (Unless you happen to be a grieving relative.)

I wonder how people would react if a medium sized plane crashed every day, killing everybody on board.

PS. Where's the sarcasm emoticon?

If only as much concern was shown for the hundreds of folks dying of cancer, heart disease, strokes etc every single day of every single year…

Maybee So Urmstongran didn't mention those who have died - so you reach totally unjustifiable conclusions that she doesn't care about those who have died.

It wasn't relevant. This whole discussion is about those who have caught the disease, not those who have died.

You said absolutely nothing about those with Long COVID, but of course you clearly think they do not matter, they are mainly young people and can handle it, even if it does ruin their education and their health for life.

MayBee70

Urmstongran

Well 41,278 cases in the last 24 hours cheered me. Less than a football stadium for the whole of our UK. Not many when you think of 70 million people living here. I wonder what percentage that maths is?

No thought for those that have died ….?

Nah! They're all old and have underlying health conditions anyway. Who cares about them? (Unless you happen to be a grieving relative.)

I wonder how people would react if a medium sized plane crashed every day, killing everybody on board.

PS. Where's the sarcasm emoticon?

MayBee70

M0nica

The OP has misquoted the headline of the Zoe study. It is headed Could COVID break 100,000 cases per day?, not 'COVID cases on the brink of breaking 100k a day'

I listened to the first 10 minutes or so of Tim Spector's presentation and found it to be very full of ifs and buts and vague assertions, whichI found very disappointing as I have always had a lot of respect for Tim Spector.

I think it’s unfair to say that if you haven’t listened to the whole thing.

I agree. Prompted by this post, I did listen to the whole video and I thought it was informative and well-balanced. It wasn't scare-mongering in the slightest, but he did explain why there's a discrepancy between the health authorities' reported figures and the ZOE figures, which tend to be more in line with ONS. The ONS figures aren't reported daily, so there's a lag anyway and they tend to be lost because they're "old news" by the time they're reported.

Urmstongran

Well 41,278 cases in the last 24 hours cheered me. Less than a football stadium for the whole of our UK. Not many when you think of 70 million people living here. I wonder what percentage that maths is?

No thought for those that have died ….?

It’s not the whole of the UK Urmstongran, Wales doesn’t report Covid numbers on Saturdays.

Well 41,278 cases in the last 24 hours cheered me. Less than a football stadium for the whole of our UK. Not many when you think of 70 million people living here. I wonder what percentage that maths is?