With the Government refusing to implement a plan this weeks video gives us what we can do for ourselves.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc7A1bVuSJU
Why do you need to rush off anwhere, if you have a box of tests at home?
Who cares about other people thinking you have lost your marbles?
You are more likely to be infected by any of your visitors than somebody in a shop.
Although they are popular on GN obviously not so much in the general public or more would be wearing them. I only noticed when I was away as I don't usually go places indoors when I am at home.
Same here talking of being away and noticing it more rosie1959. When we were here in Cornwall in May everyone was wearing masks, on the outdoor ferry too. Infections were very low. Now back in Cornwall again this week far fewer are wearing masks and no one at all bundled together on the ferry, yet cases are some of the highest in the country. I appreciate the rules have relaxed but why don't people use their brains a bit and keep going with this practice?
That is true about testing Growstuff but totally impractical to test before I meet anyone I know That would be my family who turn up at random times through the week I can’t rush off and test before seeing them they would think I had lost my marbles
I agree with you that vaccinations are better at preventing hospitalisations and deaths. However, they don't stop people catching Covid in the first place.
You need to test yourself before you meet anybody, not just unknown people. You need to be sure they've tested themselves too. You are actually more likely to be infected by somebody you know.
Masks aren't the whole answer, and I don't think anybody has pretended they are, but they do reduce transmission by creating a barrier fairly cheaply and easily. There is some evidence they prevent the wearer from breathing in some infected particles, so they can offer some protection.
Maybee I am not trying to prove anything just my opinion
Vaccination is far better at preventing hospitalisation or death
Even JVT said this morning the masks provide little protection to the wearer especially when compliance is low Surgical masks are not designed to protect the wearer but to protect people you meet. I feel testing is much more important you can’t infect others with something you don’t have I always test myself before associating with unknown people
Don't forget that the majority of transmission takes place in the home.
rosie1959
No I am also sure Growstuff that mask wearing has not contributed to the increase in infection in Wales but it hasn’t stopped cases increasing The infection rate could have been higher without them who knows
How do you know they haven't stopped cases increasing?
It stands to reason they're not perfect, but have prevented some spread of droplets.
Of course, if you can prove otherwise ...
Can you prove that they haven’t prevented hospitalisations and death?
No I am also sure Growstuff that mask wearing has not contributed to the increase in infection in Wales but it hasn’t stopped cases increasing The infection rate could have been higher without them who knows
rosie1959
Masks are still mandatory in Wales yet their infections went sky high I believe
I think the government would now find it harder to reintroduce mask wearing I think compliance would be reduced especially as rates have not increased by significant amounts
Although they are popular on GN obviously not so much in the general public or more would be wesring them
I only noticed when I was away as I don't usually go places indoors when I am at home
It's not very likely that mask wearing has contributed to the increase in infection rates in Wales. If masks weren't mandatory, the infection rate would probably been even higher.
Wales has some of the worst poverty hotspots in the UK with significant numbers in over-crowded housing. It's likely that children have caught Covid in school and brought the infection home, where masks are almost certainly not worn. Unless each individual has his/her own bedroom and bathroom, it's very difficult to self-isolate properly.
No Maybee i believe they may help with 100% compliance but with most not wearing a mask wearing one myself is not going to protect me to any extent and trusting one to do so unless it was a FFP2 would be perhaps a little hopeful
I don’t follow your logic in saying that rates went high in Wales even though people are wearing masks rosie1959? Masks are one of a suite of protective measures, not the only thing that affects infection rates. Wales had the lowest infection rate in the UK for several months, and the rise coincided with the return to school and failure of the private testing company. It would have been worse if people weren’t wearing masks.
Doesn’t that prove the point I made in my last sentence. You don’t, personally, want to believe that they help, do you?
I suppose Maybee they are not a way of life well not in the UK
I personally absolutely hate them find them very uncomfortable and although they may help I really don't have that much faith in them unless you are wearing a FFP2
Yes. It will be hard to reintroduce. Which is why it should never have been stopped in the first place given that they had become a way of life. As some people are now pointing out that infection rates seem to have plateaued might that be due to the fact that many schools have reintroduced mask wearing? It seems to me that people that aren’t happy to wear masks just look for any argument they can find against wearing them.
Masks are still mandatory in Wales yet their infections went sky high I believe
I think the government would now find it harder to reintroduce mask wearing I think compliance would be reduced especially as rates have not increased by significant amounts
Although they are popular on GN obviously not so much in the general public or more would be wesring them
I only noticed when I was away as I don't usually go places indoors when I am at home
Which is why it needs to be mandatory imo
Mask wearing probably does help more if the majority are wearing them which as I noticed on my weekend away this was not the case probably 15 to 20 percent A bit more on public transport
With many not wearing them they are far less likely to be affective and offer a fairly low protection to the wearer
He did advise it, reported by BBC as:
‘He said masks were important in some settings, particularly indoors - but he said making them mandatory in more places was for the government, not scientists’
He could advise it though.
It would seem that the Government policy out-trumps scientific advice Maybee70. He can’t tell the Government to mandate mask wearing, he’s not in a position to do so.
Although I trust JVT more than the other government advisors I am disappointed that he doesn’t see fit to say that MP’s should wear masks in parliament or that they should mandate mask wearing in public places. Even now I see that they don’t seem to be wearing masks on the government benches.
JVT said this morning that hospital cases had plateaued in the last few days.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-59145846/page/2
twitter.com/timspector/status/1454051709941166088
Some good news as Signs of new daily cases peaking at around 92000 based on Zoe Covid data
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