Austria puts unvaccinated into lockdown

I really can’t believe that anybody thinks what is happening around the world at the moment is ok. People losing their jobs and livelihoods, being segregated because they are making personal choices about medical interventions for which the long term side effects are yet to be discovered. If you are vaccinated you are protected so why does an unvaccinated person worry you so much? And it seems if you have had covid your immunity lasts much longer than vaccination. I’m not an anti vaxer, just very worried about where we’re heading with this.

I forgot to say that she caught Covid from the anti-vaxxer.

Just thinking about this how are they going to police it? Will they stop people on the street and ask for proof of vaccine? To do that they will need the largest police force in the world.

Well, I can understand the anger. Take the situation of my hairdresser. Unknowingly she spent 2 hours in the salon doing the hair of someone she now knows is an anti-vaxxer. She caught Covid which she inadvertently passed to her husband, her 3 little girls and both sets of parents.

Her 4 year old is currently in the Children's Hospital with Covid breathing difficulties.

She is incredibly stressed and would probably like to see unvaccinated people locked down, and who could blame her.

You can indeed get Covid, even vaccinated, just the effects seem to be less serious for most people. If you can get it, you must be able to pass it on.
I’ll be interested to see what happens in Austria. I think there are already protesters out on the streets.
No chance of that happening here though. We couldn’t even persuade some people to wear a mask or stay socially distanced.

There are certain things that would get me demonstrating out on the streets.

Preventing people from leaving their homes because they have declined a medical intervention would be one of them.

There was a TV program on BBC Scotland last night where they talked about how an island in the Forth was used as a "quarantine" area for people with syphilis and their carers in the 16th(?) century. Of course it wasn't quarantine, it was somewhere you were sent to die. If you didn't agree to go you were branded on the cheek and expelled from Edinburgh.

Any takers?

Pity we couldn't enforce it in the Uk!!

Agree with Winterwhite that unvaccinated and fully vaccinated can catch and transmit the virus.
I think numbers of infections are rising because fully vaccinated are not all aware of this and think its the same as other vaccines where you are protected against infection to a greater degree. The covid vaccine gives a very limited degree of protection but reduces severity of symptoms in most but not all cases. So really can't see the point of what Austria is doing.
I think their stance could actually cause numbers to rise as people will mistakenly feel safer.
I am fully vaccinated but careful not to go to crowded places.

Wouldn't be accepted in UK. There would be an outcry by businesses and pub and club goers.

As I understand it, correct me if I’m wrong anyone, but vaccinated people are considerably less likely to catch Covid, and only about 50% likely to pass it on. Plus they are far less likely to be hospitalised, unless very old or with comorbidities. Plus less likely to require ITU. When we have had our boosters we are apparently 94% protected. That sounds like a big positive to me.

What puzzles me is that we're forever being told that even if vaccinated and boosted we can nevertheless still catch the virus and, pass it on. So where is the difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated mixing with other people? ?.

This struck me over the care homes arguments and I never got to the bottom of it. Of course I know that when vaccinated people catch the infection the symptoms mild but that's a completely separate point from whether or not the unvaccinated pose a greater threat to other people.

Hetty58

I think they have the right idea - in making life more difficult for the unvaccinated and protecting the majority from them, to some extent.

Perhaps they should have to wear a badge to show they are unvaccinated and are to be avoided.
A yellow star, perhaps?

I think any society that thinks they need to "protect" people from the unvaccinated is well down the road to Gilead.

I think they have the right idea - in making life more difficult for the unvaccinated and protecting the majority from them, to some extent.

Good for them. At least they are trying. A lot here are losing their jobs if they aren’t vaccinated but they haven’t locked them down.

I thought they had put in this restriction to “encourage” more people to get vaccinated? Or maybe to get booster shots, I can’t remember exactly what I heard on the radio. Surely simply locking the unvaccinated away won’t have much of an impact as they can still go to work and to supermarkets.

The problem is, no one really knows what to do to stop the upticks.

I wonder if Austria really think these new restrictions will actually make a difference
The unvaccinated are still allowed to go to work and grocery shopping so opportunity to spread the virus still stands
I believe they have a tight regulations on masks being worn but still their numbers increase

maddyone

I wish there were more restrictions here to be honest. I’d like everyone wearing a mask inside public buildings and I’d like a vaccine passport for certain buildings or activities. I don’t think it’ll happen though. Pigs will fly first.

I quite agree with you maddyone, I still wear my mask in crowded places etc, still strict with hand cleaning etc. Think we should have passports, as in other parts of the world and our country. Saying that,with all their restrictions their numbers have gone up,

I wish there were more restrictions here to be honest. I’d like everyone wearing a mask inside public buildings and I’d like a vaccine passport for certain buildings or activities. I don’t think it’ll happen though. Pigs will fly first.

SkyBird

I am supposed to be traveling to Austria and Slovakia this coming weekend. I have until tomorrow to decide whether or not to travel. That is when my hotel reservations have to be paid.
Part of me says get on with your life. The other, why take an unnecessary risk.

My family visited from Germany , at a time we had higher numbers, wore a mask when out, horrified at how many people didn’t, took usual precautions and was fine. That’s all we can do, can’t let it stop us forever. Covid is still a risk here too.

I don't see the situation in Austria is much different from France and some other countries. We can't go into sports venues, concert halls, restaurants etc without proof of vaccination. Doesn't apply to supermarkets.

SkyBird

I am supposed to be traveling to Austria and Slovakia this coming weekend. I have until tomorrow to decide whether or not to travel. That is when my hotel reservations have to be paid.
Part of me says get on with your life. The other, why take an unnecessary risk.

Make sure you have your Covid pass printed, when we went all hotels, restaurants, attractions, some shops to, a pass was mandatory, a high grade mask too, not the flimsy ones we use here.

I am supposed to be traveling to Austria and Slovakia this coming weekend. I have until tomorrow to decide whether or not to travel. That is when my hotel reservations have to be paid.
Part of me says get on with your life. The other, why take an unnecessary risk.

Good point maddyone. Hadn't thought of that.

Will the Austrians accept it and comply?