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Ineffictiveness of Covid vaccines for the immunocompromised.

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maddyone Sun 21-Nov-21 21:02:39

I read about this Marydoll. I hope you’ve managed to get your third vaccine, and go on to get the booster too. Apparently the third vaccine for people who are immunosuppressed makes a big improvement to their resistance levels.

Iam64 Sun 21-Nov-21 21:01:44

I agree Callistemon. I plan to phone my designated specialist rheumatology nurse and ask her if I can be antibody tested. A friend who isn’t CEV is part of an Oxford Uni research group. She was found to have no antibodies when tested a month before her booster. She is 70 and her husband in his late 60’s is in treatment for cancer.
I also question whether spouses/partners of CEV should be prioritised.
A work colleague got Covid 9 months ago and remains in hospital. That individual was a fit 50 year old with no existing health problems

Marydoll Sun 21-Nov-21 20:59:55

MerylStreep

Millymouge
MaryDoll isn’t talking about the booster. This 3rd vaccine is something completely different.

Thanks Meryl, I should have made it clearer, despite suspecting people would come on taking about boosters.

Calistemon Sun 21-Nov-21 20:56:50

I think they should be freely available for those who are clinically vulnerable.

Iam64 Sun 21-Nov-21 20:45:02

Thanks for starting this Marydoll. I had my booster 6 months after my 2nd jab.
A couple of weeks later, my rhuematologist sent me a copy of her letter to my GP. The letter states I’m extremely clinically vulnerable and should have my 3rd jab 8 weeks after the 2nd. I states if I’ve recently had my booster, this should be counted as a 3rd injection. I must be give a booster in 6 months.

Like you, I read today that many of us with compromised immune systems probably had low or no antibodies because we waited 6 mo the, not 8 weeks to get what is now identified as a 3rd necessary injection. The nhs site indicates the immunosuppressed can request antibody testing. When I checked this out, it states antibody tests are Only available for NHS workers. Its possible to buy them privately for about £60.

With Christmas meaning more contacts with others, is anyone considering paying for an antibody test?

MerylStreep Sun 21-Nov-21 20:37:56

Millymouge
MaryDoll isn’t talking about the booster. This 3rd vaccine is something completely different.

millymouge Sun 21-Nov-21 20:30:34

I had an email to tell me that DH and I were due our booster almost exactly 6 months from our last vaccination. Made an appointment by text and had the vaccination 48hours later. We had the Pfizer again

Calistemon Sun 21-Nov-21 20:16:40

All I can say is - oh buggeration.

No-one seems to have a clue.

Marydoll Sun 21-Nov-21 20:10:47

welbeck, I too have multiple comorbidities and am immunocompromised. It's scandalous , what has happened. I managed to get the third Primary by asking when my husband went for his booster. Thank goodness, the receptionist on duty was clued up and called for the person in charge.

A week later, the up to date information appeared on the NHS Inform website.
Previously, when I tried to find information about it, my GP practice said it was nothing to do with them and the agent on the vaccination helpline, told me he hadn't a clue what I was talking about. It was a actually my RA specialist nurse, who advised me to ask for it.
How many immunocompromised patients out there are still in blissful ignorance?

I hope your neighbour gets the appropriate vaccination. If the first two were AZ, the third must be a full dose of Moderna or Pfizer. At least I am able to fight my corner, what about those who are too vulnerable or incapable of doing so? ?

welbeck Sun 21-Nov-21 19:47:48

i agree though not surprised.
neighbour near here should have had 3rd dose in august.
is bed-bound. impossible trying to get it, despite nhs letter saying contact GP. did so, told it's the booster, you have to wait.
one gets tired of arguing.
now district nurses are due, with booster.
doubt she will ever get the missing dose.
she has complex multiple morbidities, extremely vulnerable, immuno-compromised.
all this what you wrote OP was predictable. due to lack of GPs being aware of what wider nhs advice is, or actioning it.
so unnecessary.
take care.

Marydoll Sun 21-Nov-21 19:40:12

There have been a few discussions recently, where some posters insisted that there was no such thing as a Third Primary Vaccine for those who are immunosuppressed, it was just the same as a booster. It isn't.

I have just read an article in the Sunday papers, which reported that a number of immunosuppressed patients in England and Wales are seriously ill in hospital with Covid, because their GP had no knowledge of the requirement to get a third primary dose, nor the urgency of needing one, rather than a booster.
Some patients were found to have had little resistance to Covid, despite having had two vaccinations. In other words, for them the vaccine was ineffective.
As someone, who is immunocompromised, I was horrified to read this.