Covid risk calculator - have your taken one?

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Isn’t getting type 2 diabetes often the result of allowing yourself to become seriously overweight, just as COPD and lung cancer is often the result of smoking?
That is not victim blaming, just fact.

Oh! But they do!

Yes, I know.

It was irony.

I really do wish you'd take the time to understand and not miss the point completely.

In my view, it is entirely unacceptable to tell somebody that Covid is avoidable for some and its up to them if they risk it. It puts the onus on the person reading it and if someone is already in a state of alarm about Covid its not going to help, is it?

Alegrias1

Some people can't avoid public places. The risk is never zero, even if triple vaxxed and wearing a face covering. So telling people that the disease is avoidable and risking it is up to them, that is the gross exaggeration. It's almost victim blaming.

Imagine if someone blamed people for getting T2 diabetes

I really do wish you'd read more carefully and not jump to conclusions.

Alegrias1

Some people can't avoid public places. The risk is never zero, even if triple vaxxed and wearing a face covering. So telling people that the disease is avoidable and risking it is up to them, that is the gross exaggeration. It's almost victim blaming.

Imagine if someone blamed people for getting T2 diabetes

Oh! But they do!

I did write "for many it's avoidable*, not "*all*. I also realise that it's not entirely the responsibility of individuals, but of everybody.

Nevertheless, I've seen so many posts where people have claimed to be fit and healthy with a good immune system (which is rubbish by the way), so they'll be OK. Others seem to stick their heads in the sand and come out with stuff about flu and road traffic accidents, etc. Some people quite blatantly didn't stick to lockdown rules because their reasons were more important than anybody else.

It's all about risk and there are steps people can take to mitigate it without having to lock themselves away and never see anybody face-to-face again. I don't understand why people go to extremes and think they're being asked to stay at home forever. They're not. Lockdowns are a sign of failure that other measures haven't worked, which they won't if just a handful of people do what they want.

maddyone

I was blamed by one poster for getting Covid, back in the early part of the year. I couldn’t prevent myself from getting Covid, and those people on dinghies can’t be blamed for trying to make a better life for themselves.

Maddyone.?

A friend of mine caught Covid and died. She caught it at an urgent hospital appointment, as did her family, who escorted her. She had no choice, but to go.

No matter what precautions we take, sometimes we have no choice.

I was blamed by one poster for getting Covid, back in the early part of the year. I couldn’t prevent myself from getting Covid, and those people on dinghies can’t be blamed for trying to make a better life for themselves.

Alegrias1

Some people can't avoid public places. The risk is never zero, even if triple vaxxed and wearing a face covering. So telling people that the disease is avoidable and risking it is up to them, that is the gross exaggeration. It's almost victim blaming.

Imagine if someone blamed people for getting T2 diabetes

Quite!
Or if people were blamed for getting on a dingy and trying to cross the Channel.

Some people can't avoid public places. The risk is never zero, even if triple vaxxed and wearing a face covering. So telling people that the disease is avoidable and risking it is up to them, that is the gross exaggeration. It's almost victim blaming.

Imagine if someone blamed people for getting T2 diabetes

How is it not fair? It's the truth.

Nobody needs to stay at home or within a 100 yards of another person. That's a gross exaggeration.

Most infection is transmitted in confined spaces, including in schools and at home.

Nobody's telling the virus to play fair.

growstuff

LtEve

Between the ages of 65 and 74 you are estimated to have a 1 in 65 chance of dying in any one year according to government statistics anyway which does put it into perspective I think.
www.bandolier.org.uk/booth/Risk/dyingage.html

Yes, please see my previous post. Covid definitely increases your risk of dying - and for many it's avoidable. If you want to risk it, that's up to you.

That's not fair growstuff

Of course Covid is avoidable if you stay in your house, never go out and never get within 100 yards of anybody else, ever. But telling people they are risking it if they just want to have a bit of normality in their lives is just not fair.

BlueSky

I’m interested having had Covid as well as three jabs.

Me too Bluesky and I definitely don’t want Covid again.

LtEve

Between the ages of 65 and 74 you are estimated to have a 1 in 65 chance of dying in any one year according to government statistics anyway which does put it into perspective I think.
www.bandolier.org.uk/booth/Risk/dyingage.html

Yes, please see my previous post. Covid definitely increases your risk of dying - and for many it's avoidable. If you want to risk it, that's up to you.

I think that's your "Covid age" MayBee70. It means that your risk of dying is higher than average for the population as a whole, but nowhere near what it would be if your Covid age were in the late 80s (or older).

Mine is 70 (4 years older than my real age) as a result of being diabetic. The mid point chance of dying is 1 in 76 (1.3%), which I knew. I read somewhere else that the excess deaths (ie Covid deaths minus those of my Covid age expected to die anyway) is currently about 70 a week.

PS. Looks as though 70 is my unlucky number .

Between the ages of 65 and 74 you are estimated to have a 1 in 65 chance of dying in any one year according to government statistics anyway which does put it into perspective I think.
www.bandolier.org.uk/booth/Risk/dyingage.html

BlueSky

Mine was 65 out of 100, no conditions (they didn’t ask about BP) so I guess a lot is to do with age (70).

I was 66. Not sure if that’s good or bad. Said if I caught it I had a 1/348 chance of dying which was higher than I expected.

Growstuff, perhaps you will find this useful.

alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment

nipsmum

I won't bother looking thank you. I'm doing everything I should do. I've had all the vaccines, I don't know anyone who has had Covid. I refuse to panic about something I don't have any control over. I don't read about it and I don't listen to broadcasters who take great delight in telling us facts and figures. With the constant saturation of information it is no wonder people panic.

But you do have some control over it. If you're doing everything you could, you are already controlling it.

MaggsMcG

Wouldn't this need to be changed now anyway once we have more information on the new variant.
We still don't know if the vaccines are of any use whatsoever against it.

I don't think anybody has the required information to know whether the new variant has more or less severe effects.

We know absolutely that vaccines have some effect, despite uncertainty how long protection lasts.

We also know that certain groups have a higher risk of being more severely affected. Almost everybody has the same risk of being infected, unless they take precautions, such as social distancing and avoiding indoor spaces. Having a "healthy" lifestyle makes almost no difference. The critical factors are age, gender (reason unknown) and some underlying chronic health conditions.

esgt1967

Everything in life carries a risk - being pregnant and giving birth carries a risk of becoming ill or dying but still thousands of us get pregnant each year without really thinking about the risk. In the end, this calculator is simply telling you the probability of certain things possibly happening, it really doesn't know what will happen!

That's the nature of risk. It can't give an accurate prediction.

Yes, everything in life carries risk, but some things carry a greater risk and some can be mitigated.

Catching Covid does carry a risk - higher for some people than others, but it is possible to mitigate and take some control.

Does anybody have an accessible link to a calculator for non-NHS staff?

I'm under 1%. I have been double jabbed and have had the Covid booster. I work in the Health and Social Care sector and have seen Covid first hand.

Unfortunately s number of my clinicians told me I would die if I caught Covid and a DNR was on my record. I was sheilding under three separate categories, one would have been enough. I manage my risks. First time since the Pandemic, that I been in town. Big disappointment! ?I only did the calculator out of curiosity.

Everything in life carries a risk - being pregnant and giving birth carries a risk of becoming ill or dying but still thousands of us get pregnant each year without really thinking about the risk. In the end, this calculator is simply telling you the probability of certain things possibly happening, it really doesn't know what will happen!