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Why are some men so anti doing as they are bid

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Yammy Sun 19-Dec-21 16:26:31

Dh has been very sensible about vaccines etc. In fact we call him the Covid police. Though he used to be a medic.

AreWeThereYet Sun 19-Dec-21 16:24:44

I had to coerce Mr A initially by telling him if I got ill it may well kill me or leave me in a very unhealthy state and once he thought about that he agreed quite quickly to the vaccines and masks. Since then he has worn his mask more than me (I wait to go near the shop to put mine on, his is on as he leaves the car) and bugged me for days about the booster even though I hadn't received my invitation.

BlueBelle Sun 19-Dec-21 16:16:59

Yes fanny it was, and I was just so surprised that every man that rang in was seemingly of the same ilk, even the ones that said something reasonable at the beginning, and you thought ahh now he’s a sensible bloke, and then off they went down the same route and it was all about ‘I won’t be told’
Of course not every manBluesky that wasn’t my point at all

BlueSky Sun 19-Dec-21 16:05:34

To be honest it was my DH who was keen on having the jabs and booster. I was rather hesitant as always when it comes to possible side effects/reactions, but I thought if he’s keen then it must be really necessary!

Baggs Sun 19-Dec-21 11:08:17

Pathological Demand Avoidance, otherwise known as severe bloody-mindedness. There are fairly sympathetic articles online (from psychologists, I believe) about this condition.

Sparklefizz Sun 19-Dec-21 10:35:47

Years ago I had a boyfriend who said he'd got sick of being told what to do at home so he left ..... and joined the Army! confused I never could work that one out.

notgran Sun 19-Dec-21 10:06:57

I understand that more men than women are dying of/with COVID. I do wish however we were given more information with these statistics as we were at the start of the pandemic. Such as age, underlying health issues, sex, ethnicity. We can then be more aware of what our own risks are. Having said that I have had both jabs and booster (and flu jab) without this information.

Luckygirl3 Sun 19-Dec-21 10:02:35

Social control! The virus itself is pretty darned good at social control!!

Some people are fighting the wrong enemy.

Galaxy Sun 19-Dec-21 09:48:55

I have just had a quick look and in the over 40s there appears to be no significant difference in take up between men and women, but in the under 40s women are more likely to be vaccinated. It is interesting particularly as there was some vaccine hesitancy in pregnant women. My guess is its linked to concepts of masculinity.

FannyCornforth Sun 19-Dec-21 09:44:56

BlueBelle was it Ian Payne on LBC? It was a cracker wasn’t it?

The icing on the cake was the ridiculously stubborn and stupid bloke at the end of the phone in.

He had happily had the first two vaccinations; but is now point blank refusing the third jab, because he ‘is sick of being told what to do’ !!! confusedangry

Redhead56 Sun 19-Dec-21 09:39:05

My DH and I had recent conversations with people we see walking their dogs. All three male in their sixties objecting to being told to get vaccinated. Each person said it’s social control and they will not be told what to do. I was surprised as they are grandads and would expect them to consider their families health but their ego comes first.

Chardy Sun 19-Dec-21 08:01:48

Ashcombe

I think women are more in tune with their health because perhaps they are more aware of how their equilibrium varies in the course of the lunar cycle, at least in the fertile years and beyond for some of us. Having children or working in caring professions also makes us more health conscious and able to see the bigger picture, particularly the importance of various vaccinations.

It's usually mum who takes the kids to the doctor's for health checks, juvenile jabs etc.

BlueBelle Sun 19-Dec-21 07:53:58

You’re probably right Monica and I didn’t mean this to be an anti men slinging match I m just interested psychologically why they are so loud, so anti, so ferment with their ‘they can’t control us’ is it an inbuilt ego thing is it a power thing, is it a contrary thing.
Most men follow rules they wear seatbelts and crash helmets for the most part pay their taxes they follow rules to keep jobs play sport etc etc but they are so terrified of being coerced, going down the route of China as one man quoted that they would rather put themselves their family and others health at risk, than comply
They were coming in the ‘phone in’ one after the other all belligerent and anti

M0nica Sun 19-Dec-21 07:35:56

I think there are as many women as men feeling like this, it is just women do it quietly to save themselves the aggro and because they cannot be bothered to waste time arguing with people.

I was in London yesterday and walking past the pubs they were stuffed to the gills with people partying - as many women as men -.

Ashcombe Sun 19-Dec-21 07:22:29

I think women are more in tune with their health because perhaps they are more aware of how their equilibrium varies in the course of the lunar cycle, at least in the fertile years and beyond for some of us. Having children or working in caring professions also makes us more health conscious and able to see the bigger picture, particularly the importance of various vaccinations.

BlueBelle Sun 19-Dec-21 07:12:21

However I put this it’s going to sound sexist and it’s not at all, I had a wonderful father have a great son and lovely hard working sensible grandsons but …..
Listening to a radio ring in this morning it’s was basically all men ringing in saying I m not having the third injection (or
I m not having any injections or I m not carrying medical records) because I m not going to be told what to do!
When I watched the news last night of the demonstrations in London, it was all men screaming, shouting and threatening dreadful violence to the police what is it with some men is it the education status, is it their egos …... ?
I m not saying no women are acting so ridiculously but certainly this morning every ring in was a VERY belligerent sounding man
Don’t shoot me I m as far from a man hater as the moon is from me but it is a conversational observation