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Covid in Scotland: Teachers asked to work in Glasgow care homes as staff hit by Omicron

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Marydoll Wed 22-Dec-21 12:20:48

I was shocked to read this today! Glad I'm retired!

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-in-scotland-teachers-asked-to-work-in-glasgow-care-homes-as-staff-hit-by-omicron-7fmpb6plf

growstuff Thu 23-Dec-21 12:29:59

MissAdventure

It has been said that teachers' dbs forms only cover working with children.
Then again, they told me that I couldn't possibly hold one which covers both.
But I do.

You hold one for a specific role. A teacher's DBS covers the teacher to work with children as a teacher, not to work with vulnerable adults.

MissAdventure Thu 23-Dec-21 12:26:51

Anyway, they are asking, there is no compulsion to do it.

MissAdventure Thu 23-Dec-21 12:25:44

It has been said that teachers' dbs forms only cover working with children.
Then again, they told me that I couldn't possibly hold one which covers both.
But I do.

MaggsMcG Thu 23-Dec-21 12:25:41

"GagaJo" that's Scotland not England the Scots are already over spending their NHS budget.

Why don't the care homes ask the families to come in and help not the teachers

bear1 Thu 23-Dec-21 12:23:15

should not be able to work in a care home without a security check and also the proper training which takes a while so cannot see how a teacher could work in one .

jaylucy Thu 23-Dec-21 12:22:43

So basically, they are expecting unqualified people to go and work in the homes?
As the aunt of one teacher and sister of a teaching assistant, I can quite honestly say that they deserve their holidays this year more than any other.
Certainly many teachers will probably actually only spend a couple of days actually relaxing - the rest of the time will be spent in preparation for the next term.
The majority have worked right through, either actually in schools or from home,and have had to organise lessons either in the classrooms plus extra ones for those isolating or via zoom.

nipsmum Thu 23-Dec-21 12:08:28

How many teachers are qualified to work in Care Homes.?? The skills are generally not transferable. Don't believe everything you read in the press.

sazz1 Thu 23-Dec-21 12:08:14

They have been invited to help not forced. Its just over Xmas not in school time so I can't see the problem. They can refuse and get paid for shifts if they wish to participate

MissAdventure Wed 22-Dec-21 20:51:04

Honestly, I've always thought teaching would be impossible for me to ever have contemplated.
Most children I know would agree.

Marilla Wed 22-Dec-21 20:45:28

Having taught in both primary and secondary schools, I found teaching and generally running a primary class much more exhausting!

Kalu Wed 22-Dec-21 19:14:21

MissAdventure

Never the Twain shall meet, it seems.

Doesn’t stop me living in hope that the Twain join forces for the greater good.

Kalu Wed 22-Dec-21 19:11:43

Casdon

I’ve got the message that you don’t think it’s appropriate and wouldn’t be prepared to help growstuff, but we have to hope that where is a will there is a way, and that others will be prepared to overcome the not insurmountable issues including DBS and support carers - because what’s the alternative if people don’t come forward?
In reality the only alternative for many is that they will be admitted to hospital. That’s the worst possible solution for them and for anybody else who needs medical treatment.

Hear, hear.

Casdon Wed 22-Dec-21 18:46:31

I’ve got the message that you don’t think it’s appropriate and wouldn’t be prepared to help growstuff, but we have to hope that where is a will there is a way, and that others will be prepared to overcome the not insurmountable issues including DBS and support carers - because what’s the alternative if people don’t come forward?
In reality the only alternative for many is that they will be admitted to hospital. That’s the worst possible solution for them and for anybody else who needs medical treatment.

MissAdventure Wed 22-Dec-21 18:44:39

Never the Twain shall meet, it seems.

Kalu Wed 22-Dec-21 18:44:11

Grandmabatty

Marydoll hear, hear. Growstuff what an unpleasant and unnecessary comment. And I speak as a retired secondary teacher.

Neither are nurses! However, I took on that role as I sat with critically ill/dying patients. It was the least I could do for them!

What an unsavoury post of nitpicking Growstuff We obviously hold different values when required to put the suffering of others before ourselves.

Josieann Wed 22-Dec-21 18:36:54

Exactly Marydoll, Grandmabatty and MissAdventure a tiny part.

MissAdventure Wed 22-Dec-21 18:35:11

Every single thing we do is important.
It's a whole package deal.

Marydoll Wed 22-Dec-21 18:33:57

MissAdventure

Cleaning bums is only a tiny part of our job.
Just an incidental, really.

But a very important part to ensure the dignity of those we teach and babysit.

Josieann Wed 22-Dec-21 18:33:46

I wasn't actually talking about secondary school teachers growstuff, my post opened with the words "primary school teachers" and I was alluding to these teachers throughout.
Primary school teachers aren't trained to be babysitters either, and I think many would take offence at that suggestion. Primary school teachers do those extra caring acts mentioned in addition to teaching, just as GagoJo spends additional hours consoling or cajoling her teenage charges. It is called going above and beyond. It might be once a month in a primary school there is a toilet accident, once a term a child pukes in the classroom, once a year there is a broken bone, once every 5 years an anaphylactic shock, but primary teachers are usually ready to deal with it when it happens because they have good practical skills.

MissAdventure Wed 22-Dec-21 18:30:27

Cleaning bums is only a tiny part of our job.
Just an incidental, really.

Marydoll Wed 22-Dec-21 18:29:14

growstuff

Cleaning up bums and vomit and helping cut up food is babysitting. Secondary school pupils can administer their own epi-pens and, if not, a member of staff will be trained.

That's only a tiny part of our job.

growstuff Wed 22-Dec-21 18:26:38

Cleaning up bums and vomit and helping cut up food is babysitting. Secondary school pupils can administer their own epi-pens and, if not, a member of staff will be trained.

Marydoll Wed 22-Dec-21 18:25:43

And I speak as someone, who initially trained as a secondary teacher and converted to primary, when I returned to teaching after having my children.

growstuff Wed 22-Dec-21 18:24:30

Grandmabatty

Marydoll hear, hear. Growstuff what an unpleasant and unnecessary comment. And I speak as a retired secondary teacher.

Suit yourself!

Grandmabatty Wed 22-Dec-21 18:23:04

Marydoll hear, hear. Growstuff what an unpleasant and unnecessary comment. And I speak as a retired secondary teacher.